Just breaking on CNN - another one dead!!

[VeeDubb]

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How do measure a punishment fitting a crime? Seems simialr to eye for an eye..I dont see how you can say that what about a person who urinates in public..What are you going to have people urinate in public to punish him.Or how about someone who commits acts of sodomy? Sodomize him for punishmnet?

His crimes happened 20 years ago, maybe he repented and became a christian, has anyone considered that?
There is a possibilty that you are asking for the death of another christian .
My point is you dont know, All i here is "kill the guy and i hope its painful"
Some people need to be eliminated from society who still pose a threat to others.Otherwise we should pay for them being in jail beucase we impose our morals upon the criminal. Not the other way around.

"The trial of Socorates" has a good example of what I am saying. [/QB]

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If we just "turned the other cheek" to every criminal that decided to do whatever he wants, there would be mayhem in society. There has to be laws to punish criminals or pretty soon the wolves will be eating the sheepp and there wouldn't be anyone to stop them........well, actually there would because people will just form their own vigilante groups and pretty soon, you will have mobs deciding the fate of criminals. And believe me, it won't be pretty.

"Turn the other cheek" is a great code of behavior at the *individual* level but a code that absolutely would not work at the societal level. I see no conflict between "an eye for an eye" and "turn the other cheek." One is a guiding principle for making laws that govern society whereas the other is the guiding principle for individual conduct.

For example, if somebody has wronged me, then if I kick his butt, then it is vengeance not justice. But if I am a judge who is reviewing a rape case, and the alleged rapist is found guilty, I will throw the book at him to set precedence and send a message to future rapists.

[ March 15, 2004, 08:02 AM: Message edited by: VeeDubb ]

 

[goodoleboy]

Im not saying turna cheek im saying dont wish people painful and slow deaths.
Have respect for what he is fighting for..He is a human to with a mother,father,brother, and wife that love him...

 

[goodoleboy]

Im not saying turn a cheek im saying dont wish people painful and slow deaths.
Have respect for what he is fighting for..He is a human to with a mother,father,brother, and wife that love him...

 

[Gary Allan]

Unfortunately goodoleboy ...most of us can't view him as a human. I'm a firm believer that when you tresspass upon another ..you sorta give up the right to ask how mad they get about it.

All that you can hope is that they have mercy on you.

Not many feel merciful when it comes to these type of people (me included) ....and I don't blindly hate anyone (as some of our bretheren here appear to).

 

[Tim]

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Originally posted by goodoleboy:
His crimes happened 20 years ago, maybe he repented and became a christian, has anyone considered that?
There is a possibilty that you are asking for the death of another christian .

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gob

I am with you in this regard - it is repulsive for us to wish a painful death on someone.

But please consider this: a person can repent of a crime and even be forgiven by the person they have offended, but that does not necessarily mean they will avoid being punished by the authorities.

George Bush, as Governor of Texas, allowed a woman (can't remember he name - I can see her face..Carla Fay something??) on death row to be executed even though she had spent the last years of her life teaching bible studies in prison and praising God. He realized that God may have forgiven her and will save her soul, but justice still demanded she be punished for her crime (she chopped some guy up with an ax IIFC). He caught a lot of grief from Christians for that, but he did not play "favorites".

I know of folks who have been forgiven of their past sins, but are still dying of cirrosis, Aids, etc....there are consequences that we may not be able to avoid.

FWIW,


Tim

 

[JohnnyO]

Bill Clinton, to his credit

, had negotiated a deal that got the Palestinians something like 90% of what they wanted and they said "No". If they got a homeland and there is peace, then Arafat is out of a job.