Just a thought!
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Research and development?
That has already been done by the suppliers of the additives and basestocks. The blend formulations are purchased with the package.
These formulations have already been tested and passed the specified parameters for the specifications on the bottle at the Southwest research institute (or other independent lab). No. formulation gets the specifications with out the testing (correct me if I am wrong here) Examples -
https://www.lubesngreases.com/magazine/24_2/testing-in-texas/
In a way, yes the added price paid for major brands is subsidizing the smaller independent blenders who buy over the counter additive and base oil packages. They then benefit from low to non existent marketing cost. Lower priced packaging reduces costs more and then integrating distribution into a preexisting distribution system such as Walmart’s or Costco’s reduces distribution costs(and not having to incentivize retailers for shelf space). So the buyer wins, with a formulation the majors did the R&D on, all at a lower price point.
If a blender were to make unapproved substitutions they would lose their ability to produce licensed products.
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Do you have some inside information to back up your claim?
He has repeated that claim on multiple threads but has yet to offer anything of substance related to his claim. It is natural to have bias's and it takes work to overcome them After a lifetime of conditioning,
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petrocanada’s base oils have a unique msds signature and it’s present on all the warren ilsac oils
go look it up yourself
Can you describe the signature and how you are determining a relationship? secondly why it would have any relationship to the final performance of the formulation?
Lubricating oils (petroleum), CXX-XX, hydrotreated neutral oil-based.
compare all the readily available base oils one by one and only purity lists this. purity vhvi is sold as a group III+ alternative for a cost conscious blender.
PURITY™ VHVI Specialty Base Fluids | PURITY | Petro-Canada Lubricants
Formulating with PURITY VHVI Group III base oils result in leading edge lubricants with high performance and long life that provide enhanced equipment protection. Read more.
lubricants.petro-canada.com
SDS’s are intended purely to supply emergency responders with information for spills, fires and human exposures. it Is by no means a formuation. Many times a manufacturer will uses an sds that is common accross all lines but use the most volatile/harmful product of a similar type and use that across the line.
Have you seen what Mobil 1 is doing in sds’s lately? They have left it wide open with “synthetic base oils”
regardless it is hard to worry much based on actual performance.
My career for over 25 years includes management of SDSs for facilities and projects management and emergency response. I understand the purpose of these documents and trade secrets will not be gleaned from them.
