Jury Duty

[moribundman]

So I get yet another summons for jury duty from the Superior Court of California. They pick me for some reason about every two years. I wonder what happens if I don't again politely point out that I'm not a citizen. If I were to show up, would they check my suitability only to find out they lucked out, or would they simply take me by my word and put me on a jury? Hang 'em higher, I says!

 

[CBDFrontier06]

You're not a citizen of California, or of America?

 

[moribundman]

What, there's such a thing as Californian citizenship?

No, I am not a US citizen -- hence no jury duty.

 

[Pablo]

Dude:

a) EVERYONE in California is a citizen.
b) stop whining.

 

[moribundman]

Bubba:

a) not every California resident is a US citizen
b) I was gloating

 

[CBDFrontier06]

Why would you gloat that your illegal status allows you all the rights and priveledges of other legal citizens, without having any of the responsibilities? Get legal, or get out.

 

[Pablo]

Chuck:

a) viva la raza
b) I was kidding

 

[moribundman]

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Why would you gloat that your illegal status allows you all the rights and priveledges of other legal citizens, without having any of the responsibilities? Get legal, or get out.

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I'm not illegally here. If I were, I'd hardly talk about it publicly.

I guess you don't know the difference between resident and citizen. You coined the fantasy terms "citizen of California/America."

And as for privileges and rights, as a permanent alien resident with work permit I have the privilege to pay taxes, but no right to exercise civic duty.

 

[javacontour]

Who says he is illegal. He can be a legal alien, or perhaps a resident, but not a citizen.

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An alien who has temporary or permanent residence in a country (which is foreign to him/her) may be called a "resident alien" of that country.

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[Pablo]

Seriously - that is pretty messed up. I always thought they got jury duty picks from voter rolls. Maybe not enough of them, so they hit the INS.

 

[moribundman]

The funny thing is, while I am a German citizen, I am not a German resident anymore, because I live more than 6 months out of the year abroad.

 

[moribundman]

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Seriously - that is pretty messed up. I always thought they got jury duty picks from voter rolls. Maybe not enough of them, so they hit the INS.

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No, they get the names from the DMV.

 

[Pablo]

DMV. Where ANYONE can get a license.

I wonder if there is some kind of questionnaire as there is WA state?

 

[moribundman]

The point of my "whining" and "gloating" post was this: who knows who ends up sitting on juries with such a stupid and inefficient system of picking potential jurors.

 

[Pablo]

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who knows who ends up sitting on juries

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A jury of YOUR peers.

 

[javacontour]

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The point of my "whining" and "gloating" post was this: who knows who ends up sitting on juries with such a stupid and inefficient system of picking potential jurors.

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Never trust your fate to 12 people who are not smart enough to get out of jury duty.

 

[Papa Bear]

Being a juror sure beats being a defendant.

 

[Mustang_Cougar]

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Why would you gloat that your illegal status allows you all the rights and priveledges of other legal citizens, without having any of the responsibilities? Get legal, or get out.

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[Mustang_Cougar]

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who knows who ends up sitting on juries

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A jury of YOUR peers.

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Hmmm, I would think Moribundman would be set if he ever went before a jury of his peers. No death penalty, pretty short prison sentences, and a good chance of being sent to a work camp on Mallorca for the summer.

Seriously, if I ever want to become a bank robber, I'm going to Germany. The German post offices around my wife's neck of the woods are robbed on a monthly basis and the fellas from "Tatort" never catch any of them.

BTW: Locals claim they're French bandits and Romas...

 

[obbop]

OUTRAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Am I alone being OUTRAGED at the thought of being on trial with the possibility of 12 average American idiotic sheep being present to judge me???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Babbling buffoons brainwashed by a plethora of sources.

More concerned with what sport is on the telly or what is on sale at the mall.

The average American who seldom to never reads a non-fiction book or even a newspaper..... and the minority who do read a newspaper seldom go past the first paragraph or two (the research is out there to back up my mumbling).

Idiotic simpletons whose ability for rational thinking is akin to a kumquat?

ACCCKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

According to the "professionals," however one wants to define the term; among those involved with the legal (not justice) system, if you are innocent request a non-jury proceeding wherein the judge determines guilt and a jury if thou art guilty. Exceptions assuredly exist.

Remember, kids, despite all the propaganda to the contrary, for us commoners, if ever tried for a crime, expect to have to prove your innocence vice the state having to prove thine guilt. Exceptions assuredly exist.

Kinda' sad I feel compelled to add the "exceptions exist" clause since, I believe, logically-minded folk would already know and assume that BUT.........

well...... despite the enormity of educated clear-thinking folks on this board I HAVE noticed some of the typical knee-jerk reaction stuff so common among the citizenry.

Carry on.

/rant over