Japanese car rust...

[brianl703]

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Japanese make good products... I think of our previa and of our echo chainsaw...

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I think of my old Ford in-dash CD player that stopped ejecting CDs.

Printed all over the CD mechanism is the word "SONY".

Playstations aren't exactly the most mechanically reliable products, either, and Sony has about 8 different revisions of them, which makes it real fun when you want to get a replacement part like a CD tray.

 

[Willy_G]

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All cars rust.

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Except for the galvanized ones, like Audi (since '85!!!), VW, and now GM! I am sure others are getting on the zink bandwagon.

Now if there would only be a car with the performance & rust resistance of an Audi, and the reliability of a Toyota all the world's problems would be solved!

 

[Moloch]

Willy I wish I could agree... but no. All cars rust zinc ones rust slower Im pretty sure by now most manufacturers zinc plate their cars. Im pretty sure Ford also zinc plates their stuff.

 

[brianl703]

I thought vehicle age was the most important factor in how a vehicle rusts (or not) (given the same location/weather).

I have a 1988 Mustang that had paint coming off in places and surface rust but it never progressed beyond surface rust (I got it repainted).

 

[medic]

I think mid 90's and up vehicles are pretty good when it comes to rust. Prior to that, most vehicles rusted out pretty quick around here. As far as imports vs. domestic, I am not too sure. My 97 F150 is in the body shop right now getting new cab corners and rocker panels. When we took the bedliner out and lifted the box so he could get to the cab corners, we realized that the box is about shot. Most of the seams are rusted through. By this time next year, the wind will be catching the box sides, making my truck look like the flying nun.

The good news is that he told me he can get a southern box for about $1500. The bad news is that my truck has an 8' bed, which can hard to find. Most trucks have the 6.5' bed.

 

[VNT]

Have to agree up here, they use liquid calcium chloride. Rusts the **** out of cars. I go yarding a lot and the early/mid 90's stuff is starting to show up and the import nameplates definatley suffer worse, many Accords, Corrolas, camrys with rusted out floors, rockers etc Guy stacks the cars so you can look under them. Domestics might have some peforation on lower doors and some fender stuff but by far less corrosion. Note these tend to be high mileage carcasses probably with blown trannies, engines and are on last leg before being discarded.

 

[cousincletus]

Medic, try www.car-part.com for your truck parts. I see a lot of regular cab (I'm assuming you have a reg. cab) long bed trucks around here in Richmond, VA and we don't get the bad rust problem you'uns get in Western PA.

 

[JHZR2]

brian... if vehicle age is the factor, then why hasnt my 83 MB 300D not rusted at all, but my father's 96 has rust? They both have lived within 20 miles of each other all their life... mine has 228k, his 167k...

And as ar as your ford/sony CD player... most people know as common knowledge that there are different grades of quality for all sorts of products... (think the home depot reports from not long ago as selling inferior grades of materials). Based upon our experiences with ford (unlike GM and Chrysler which we have been and are currently extremaly satisfied with), our experiences with ford are much the opposite.. coincindence? I dunno... Im not trying to get into a redneck '****ing' match over chevy/ford/dodge/even toyota... but experiences are experiences... the same experiences that have made me extremely not inclined to buy a honda product... unless its yard equipment or a generator.

JMH

[ December 10, 2005, 01:34 PM: Message edited by: JHZR2 ]

 

[brianl703]

Yes, there are different grade of quality for different products.

The fact that a Sony CD mechanism designed to go into a product warranted for 3 years craps out like that doesn't exactly make me want to go out and buy a Sony product warrented for 1 or 2 years, like their car audio equipment.

As far as vehicle age, I meant that I would not expect a given make/model/year of a car with more mileage to be any more likely to have rust than another car of the same make/model/year driven in the same geographic area. (Unless the lower-mileage car was never driven in the winter).

The corrosion continues for as long as the corrosive chemicals are on your car..it doesn't have to be moving (racking up miles) for the corrosion process to happen.

 

[JHZR2]

I wonder if that holds true... has anyone had good/bad experience with sony branded car audio equipment?

Id venture to think of it this way...

If I was in the business of contract building (my name isnt on the final product, per se) for the purpose of mass-building houses, Id get the cheaper low-grade hardware for them to save me a few $$$, especially if the homes were lower end of the cost spectrum... If I was building my own home, Id buy the higher end, higher quality hardware, to ensure that I had the best.


Lets translate that out... most folks will never have an issue with the xyz in their car. If they do, most wont pull it out and see the brand on it. Why should sony, and even Ford care all that much about how good it is? Then again, if Sony has a name to keep up, they would likely do something to ensure that the products are good...

Thats my thought, but I digress from the topic.

As for corrosion continuing as long as the chemicals are on your car, that's true, except that at very cold sitting temps the kinetics are not correct for much to occur...

That said, Id rather have minimal or no salt, even if it means washing the car and having ice on it all winter... compared to the chanceof corrosion. And Id rather have a US car, with its millions of layers of rustproofing, than most others (though I still cant believe how great my saab is in very deep snow, ice, etc).

JMH

 

[brianl703]

Does the car get garaged during the winter or does the temperature go up during the day (it was above freezing here today). That could promote rust. My attached garage is always warmer than the outside temperature during the winter.

OEM car stereos are usually built to a higher quality standard than are aftermarket ones. The reason for the difference?

OEM -- warranted for 3 years or longer. Often used for the life of the car.

aftermarket - warranted for a year or two, and probably replaced with next year's cooler looking model

(Note: This has nothing to do with the sound quality, the output wattage, or anything like that, only how long the unit will continue to perform as it is supposed to).

[ December 10, 2005, 08:38 PM: Message edited by: brianl703 ]

 

[Mr Nice]

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The fact that a Sony CD mechanism designed to go into a product warranted for 3 years craps out like that doesn't exactly make me want to go out and buy a Sony product warrented for 1 or 2 years, like their car audio equipment.

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Brian,
Sony is WAAAAAY over rated & expensive.