It's Official - the Camaro Will Return in 2008
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I watched Autoline Detroit this morning on the Speed Channel. The host of the show spent the entire 20+ minutes with Rick Waggoner of GM.
He was saying all the right things, as far as I am concerned. This was the first time I saw an interview with a GM big wig where I didn't shake my head and say to myself: "They still don't get it."
You can see the interview here:
http://www.autolinedetroit.tv/
--- Bror Jace
He was saying all the right things, as far as I am concerned. This was the first time I saw an interview with a GM big wig where I didn't shake my head and say to myself: "They still don't get it."
You can see the interview here:
http://www.autolinedetroit.tv/
--- Bror Jace
They just killed the Camaro a couple of years ago and now they want to bring it back ??!! Anything for a buck !!
G.M is no longer a trend setter, they can't even follow right .... The General I knew in the '60's is DEAD - Long live the General.
Our local paper the other day was saying that G.M. here in Canada was hoping the Aveo would be a big seller and put G.M. back in the black. They said that the Aveo was built in China and Korea.... NO THANKS, I'll stick with my Corolla that was built just down the road in Cambridge, Ontario.
P.B.
G.M is no longer a trend setter, they can't even follow right .... The General I knew in the '60's is DEAD - Long live the General.
Our local paper the other day was saying that G.M. here in Canada was hoping the Aveo would be a big seller and put G.M. back in the black. They said that the Aveo was built in China and Korea.... NO THANKS, I'll stick with my Corolla that was built just down the road in Cambridge, Ontario.
P.B.
I saw this and was surprisingly impressed with Waggoner. He really does seem to have a handle on what needs done.
At lot of the questions were softball though. No mention at all of the deals with Delphi for instance.
One other thing that bothers me. Waggoner talked about all the $$ they'll be spending on product development and that's a great thing if it's spent wisely. But to get the $$ they're eating themselves. For instance, selling GMAC will give them short term cash and access to better credit terms, but it's also an income stream they'll no longer have.
If what's they're doing doesn't work or takes too long to work, they're in deep doo-doo. At least most of their latest vehicles look good. That's a good sign...
Camaro: Cadillac-designed platform developed at Nurburgring; will arrive with next-generation small block and a standard transmission. Put the Corvette motor in it, call it an R/T and watch them roll out of the showroom. With that platform and engine, a Jeggs catalog, and about $2K in cash I will smoke anything short of a ZR-1 (and that includes anything European, short of a supercar like a Gallardo.)
Mustang: Solid rear axle so that the 6 cylinder model can sell at the right price point. Most powerful version (500hp supercharged Shelby) still slower than base Corvette (400hp naturally-aspirated.) More cheesey doo-dads and plastic chrome junk than a Tijuana taxi.
Challenger: Mercedes E-Class platform design made with cheaper materials; comes with a motor called a "hemi" (which it really isn't) made in Mexico. Probably won't see anything past a five speed automatic. 360 hp ain't gonna hunt in this group.
Mustang: Solid rear axle so that the 6 cylinder model can sell at the right price point. Most powerful version (500hp supercharged Shelby) still slower than base Corvette (400hp naturally-aspirated.) More cheesey doo-dads and plastic chrome junk than a Tijuana taxi.
Challenger: Mercedes E-Class platform design made with cheaper materials; comes with a motor called a "hemi" (which it really isn't) made in Mexico. Probably won't see anything past a five speed automatic. 360 hp ain't gonna hunt in this group.
By all reports I've read, the Challenger will be getting the SRT-8 treatment complete with 425 horses.
Nostalgia (and $$) for the old muscle cars is huge right now, and enthusiasm for new ones is pretty strong too.
But - how strong will it be 2 years from now? Or 2 years after that? Ford got on the growing wave at exactly the right time with the Mustang. I have a feeling that most of the public will have moved on by the time this car comes out.
There will always be a market for muscle cars, but it will vary from very small to large. I think GM's timing on this isn't going to be so great.
But - how strong will it be 2 years from now? Or 2 years after that? Ford got on the growing wave at exactly the right time with the Mustang. I have a feeling that most of the public will have moved on by the time this car comes out.
There will always be a market for muscle cars, but it will vary from very small to large. I think GM's timing on this isn't going to be so great.
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