Is Indy Car as cheesy as it looks!?

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I haven't watched Indy car racing since I was a boy and it was big money big names big sponsors.

Today I turn on NBC and it looks almost emaciated and low brow.

Crew gear looks basic, crews looks fairly unathletic, story lines are thin, parking looks half empty.

NASCAR has some of it's own relevancy problems but man I feel like I'm watching a Kmart going out of business. At least they have a strong sponsorship package.


And F1 seems alot more healthy.
Kinda sad. Maybe it's time for WRC to come to America, we have lots of geographical variety which could make it interesting.
 
At one time I tried to get into nascar, but could not. All they do is go around in circles. Yeah ok it is more than that, but like most sports it is only interesting if I actually am involved and actually doing said sport.

Now a demo derby commands my attention...
 
NASCAR has lost half its viewers thanks to them allowing races to be aired on premium cable channels.If they don't do something quick,they will be 2nd rate to WWE programming.
 
Cartman said it,and he was right "Time to turn left again".. and "Danica's a b*tch"....
 
Her histrionics ruin any chance of being taken seriously in the sport. She has been given the golden ticket, and has done little with it.
 
I am guessing NBC sports is a premium channel?? NASCAR has and had several problems that have nothing to do with TV packages. 1) the recession obviously 2) hotel and motels that Jack their prices so high that it makes it very unaffordable for many everyday people 3) ticket prices that got too high 4) watching races at home with Hi def great tvs makes it easier to stay home.
There are more problems than this has well. There are a number if racetracks that have maintained very good attendance since 2007. Martinsville, Pocono, and Phoenix to name a few. Now Dover has struggled mightily, Charlotte has fallen off tremendously and Michigan too. I know that Dover used to have a lot if acreage to camp on. I've been there. I wonder if they sold off the land across route 1?? Same with Charlotte and Michigan as well. Because by being able to camp out this did save people hundreds of dollars due to the fact they didn't have to book a hotel or motel. This alone could very easily explain the drop in attendance at some of these racetracks. Tickets, gas, and lodging could easily exceed $1200 or more for a family of four. Truth of the matter is our economy is in a Gilded Age. Covered with gold with rotting wood underneath.. Not what it all is being made out to be. This has been the case for the past 15 yrs. Nothing new.
 
I suspect the pajama boy class of Ivy League "opinion makers" is trying to do to auto racing what they are also trying to do to football.
 
Indy Car's golden years was when it was part of USAC which was the biggest and best sanctioning body for open wheel racing at the time. The cars that ran at Indy and other large tracks were known as the "Champ Cars series".

The guys who raced at Indy back then worked their way up thru USAC ranks (midgets, and Sprint Cars), and were well known by auto racing fans since most started their careers at local tracks thru out the US.

Today only a small handful of Indy car drivers are well known by US fans who follow auto racing.

BTW. NASCAR could solve a lot of it's current problems if they started having some of their races on dirt tracks. They bring in dirt to Bristol for World of Outlaws Sprint Cars. Why couldn't they do that for NASCAR?
 
Originally Posted By: azjake
Indy Car's golden years was when it was part of USAC which was the biggest and best sanctioning body for open wheel racing at the time. The cars that ran at Indy and other large tracks were known as the "Champ Cars series".

The guys who raced at Indy back then worked their way up thru USAC ranks (midgets, and Sprint Cars), and were well known by auto racing fans since most started their careers at local tracks


YES THATS the Indy car atmosphere and notariety I recall . American...open wheel...racing.
 
Hello, "... it changed from Indy Cars to Danica awful quickly." They put a cherry on a slob sundae. No offense meant, it's just that hanging out at a NASCAR race is borderline involvement at best.

NASCAR promoted "fights" between drivers and rolled into Danica. They never had a load to shoot in my opinion.

In a way it's good a cheap distraction which amounts to little is sputtering. Disco anyone?

There are too many other things to do for WAY less coin.

Is WWE thriving?...sad since it's retarded and violence based. Kira
 
Originally Posted By: NHGUY
NASCAR has lost half its viewers thanks to them allowing races to be aired on premium cable channels.If they don't do something quick,they will be 2nd rate to WWE programming.


That and the lack of body style matching the street production cars.
 
I'm into indy car, the money is not there, nor the fans, but they still race race hard, have a good mix of drivers and mix road and oval tracks. I watch the races delayed on the computer and feel like it's my own private race series.

I am biased though because I go to the indy500 every year, so that helps keep you hooked on the series.

I'm watching the California race as I type this.
 
I watched Indy racing back when teams ran different cars and drivetrains. Anyone remember the turbine car from the sixties? I think it was entered by the Granatelli brothers.
 
Indy Car has become irrelevant. Their races are too short and they have too few races. It is hard for Americans to get behind a sport where half or more of the participants (drivers in this case) are foreign born. As the popularity has decreased so has sponsor interest, and round it goes.

NASCAR has hurt itself by going mostly off of network tv and even ESPN, and to Fox Sports 1 and NBC Sports Network. Ticket prices are also too high. I went to a Xfinity series race five years or so ago and tickets were $60 each, and you can't really tell what is going on compared to on tv with announcers and the scroll that says who is in what position. Lastly, NASCAR needs more diversity in terms of tracks, especially in The Chase. I'm sick of 1.5 mile tracks that all race the same.
 
Much rather F1, Endurance, WRC, SCCA (Continental Tire Sports car Challenge), Austrlian V8, BTCC, GTCC... over NASCAR or Indy.
 
When Dale died, so did NASCAR.

Indy Car is boring and I change the channel. I changed the channel from NASCAR to a rerun of Miami Vice TV show.
 
As a life long resident of Indianapolis, I've followed the 500 since I was a little squirt. As mentioned, the heyday of Indycar racing spanned the 60's into the 80's. Today, it has become a spec-car series - sort of a really poor man's Formula One (which has degraded it's product over the last few years as well).

I think a huge factor in this is the cost of equipment and loss of sponsors. Go back a ways and you had lots of tobacco sponsorship of teams and series - then it was banned and all that money dried up.

To the original question, yes cheesy is a good description. Just watch the cars on a road course - they look like giant slot cars.
 
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