Has anyone tried it? Comments other than its only for the rich guys.
Is anyone using the premix oil and E0 gas
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I use it for a couple of things:
1. For off season or long term storage of all my 2-stroke stuff.
2. When my mom/friend/BIL wants to borrow something (like my brush cutter) so there aren't any mix ups or chances of straight gas.
For the off season stuff, one quart goes a long way.
If I'm using the toys heavily, the pump gas and pre-mix is fine. I have a 2-stroke everything to burn up the gas so it never gets old.
For the relatives, it's peace of mind that at least they won't straight gas something by accident.
1. For off season or long term storage of all my 2-stroke stuff.
2. When my mom/friend/BIL wants to borrow something (like my brush cutter) so there aren't any mix ups or chances of straight gas.
For the off season stuff, one quart goes a long way.
If I'm using the toys heavily, the pump gas and pre-mix is fine. I have a 2-stroke everything to burn up the gas so it never gets old.
For the relatives, it's peace of mind that at least they won't straight gas something by accident.
Originally Posted By: MichiganMadMan
I use it for a couple of things:
1. For off season or long term storage of all my 2-stroke stuff.
2. When my mom/friend/BIL wants to borrow something (like my brush cutter) so there aren't any mix ups or chances of straight gas.
For the off season stuff, one quart goes a long way.
If I'm using the toys heavily, the pump gas and pre-mix is fine. I have a 2-stroke everything to burn up the gas so it never gets old.
For the relatives, it's peace of mind that at least they won't straight gas something by accident.
Where are you buying E0 gas in SE Michigan? I want in!
I use it for a couple of things:
1. For off season or long term storage of all my 2-stroke stuff.
2. When my mom/friend/BIL wants to borrow something (like my brush cutter) so there aren't any mix ups or chances of straight gas.
For the off season stuff, one quart goes a long way.
If I'm using the toys heavily, the pump gas and pre-mix is fine. I have a 2-stroke everything to burn up the gas so it never gets old.
For the relatives, it's peace of mind that at least they won't straight gas something by accident.
Where are you buying E0 gas in SE Michigan? I want in!
Its sold by Stihl and others mixed with (50:1 synthetic oil and $9.00/QT. Still want in? They (Stihl website) say it has a 2 year shelf life after opening. Thats impressive.
Originally Posted By: Donald
Its sold by Stihl and others mixed with (50:1 synthetic oil and $9.00/QT. Still want in? They (Stihl website) say it has a 2 year shelf life after opening. Thats impressive.
Oops, though he was referring to buying straight E0 pump gas, not the premixed stuff.
Its sold by Stihl and others mixed with (50:1 synthetic oil and $9.00/QT. Still want in? They (Stihl website) say it has a 2 year shelf life after opening. Thats impressive.
Oops, though he was referring to buying straight E0 pump gas, not the premixed stuff.
I buy VP racing fuels SEF94 and mix it with Stihl HP ultra. I'm pretty sure the SEF94 is what they use to blend the fuel at the factory, and at $12 per gallon in a 5 gallon can, MUCH cheaper than the Stihl Motomix, or even the Trufuel.
The motomix/SEF94 seems to start much easier, requiring less choke. maybe it contains more btu's? but I can flip the choke off immediately vs waiting several seconds and slowly unchoking equipment with regular gas.
The motomix/SEF94 seems to start much easier, requiring less choke. maybe it contains more btu's? but I can flip the choke off immediately vs waiting several seconds and slowly unchoking equipment with regular gas.
I buy the TruFuel at Wally World for 3.97 a quart. Seems pricey, until you compare it to the Stihl MotoMix mentioned above, and taking carbs apart every season.
Originally Posted By: MichiganMadMan
I buy the TruFuel at Wally World for 3.97 a quart. Seems pricey, until you compare it to the Stihl MotoMix mentioned above, and taking carbs apart every season.
Is the stuff at Wallyworld in OPE or automotive. Have not seen it.
I buy the TruFuel at Wally World for 3.97 a quart. Seems pricey, until you compare it to the Stihl MotoMix mentioned above, and taking carbs apart every season.
Is the stuff at Wallyworld in OPE or automotive. Have not seen it.
I use it mostly in the fall for the blower/vac, easier starts and seems to run better. I get mine at Orscheln's farm/home.
It's usually hidden in the Lawn and Garden section. Depending on the store, they hide it in the Winter (silly!).
I stock up when I find it.
I stock up when I find it.
I found it at a Walmart today and picked it up. But this one is 40:1. Do they also make 50:1. Maybe that is why it was still there. How much recent OPE takes 40:1? The stuff does not mention the octane. The 2X priced Stihl is 92 octane.
My McCulloch takes 40:1 so no big deal.
My McCulloch takes 40:1 so no big deal.
Nope, kind of hard to find around here and way too expensive for no real benefit. I use E10 from the gas station (89 octane, only because my Echo machines and the Stihl oil I use specify it for some reason) mixed with Stihl full synthetic mixed at 50:1. I've never had any carburetor or fuel system issues in any of my equipment. Just drain the gas out of the tank and burn up what's left in the carb before long-term storage.
Originally Posted By: exranger06
Nope, kind of hard to find around here and way too expensive for no real benefit. I use E10 from the gas station (89 octane, only because my Echo machines and the Stihl oil I use specify it for some reason) mixed with Stihl full synthetic mixed at 50:1. I've never had any carburetor or fuel system issues in any of my equipment. Just drain the gas out of the tank and burn up what's left in the carb before long-term storage.
Fully agree with the above but I use regular 87 octane and have never had problems with the fuel.
Nope, kind of hard to find around here and way too expensive for no real benefit. I use E10 from the gas station (89 octane, only because my Echo machines and the Stihl oil I use specify it for some reason) mixed with Stihl full synthetic mixed at 50:1. I've never had any carburetor or fuel system issues in any of my equipment. Just drain the gas out of the tank and burn up what's left in the carb before long-term storage.
Fully agree with the above but I use regular 87 octane and have never had problems with the fuel.
The local OPE dealer just suggests to use the premix for the last run of the season. Almost all 2 cycle oil has a stabilizer. Its been awhile since I took apart a 2 cycle carb, but even if one runs the engine until it dies, isn't their fuel left in the fuel bowl like a 4 cycle?
Originally Posted By: Donald
The local OPE dealer just suggests to use the premix for the last run of the season. Almost all 2 cycle oil has a stabilizer. Its been awhile since I took apart a 2 cycle carb, but even if one runs the engine until it dies, isn't their fuel left in the fuel bowl like a 4 cycle?
Depends if it has a diaphragm carb or a float bowl carb. Most hand held two cycle equipment have diaphragm carbs. They will be virtually run clear if run dry.
On a float bowl carb, any fuel that can be pulled up by the main jet will be consumed. There will be some residual fuel but in most cases, it should be below any critical components unless those component are ports/jets built into the float bowl bolt. In that case, there could be fuel varnishing issues. Best bet is to loosen the bolt and drain the bowl. I seldom do that. I normally just run it dry and have been getting away with it so far.
The local OPE dealer just suggests to use the premix for the last run of the season. Almost all 2 cycle oil has a stabilizer. Its been awhile since I took apart a 2 cycle carb, but even if one runs the engine until it dies, isn't their fuel left in the fuel bowl like a 4 cycle?
Depends if it has a diaphragm carb or a float bowl carb. Most hand held two cycle equipment have diaphragm carbs. They will be virtually run clear if run dry.
On a float bowl carb, any fuel that can be pulled up by the main jet will be consumed. There will be some residual fuel but in most cases, it should be below any critical components unless those component are ports/jets built into the float bowl bolt. In that case, there could be fuel varnishing issues. Best bet is to loosen the bolt and drain the bowl. I seldom do that. I normally just run it dry and have been getting away with it so far.
As I said in earlier posts, I bet that is alkylate gasoline. In Sweden that is the only fuel used for small engines in the forestry industry. Why? Because of shelf life, non toxic fumes, constant specification. There are almost only upsides, the cost is lower than the cost for extra maintenance on the equipment, you don't get headaches and you don't have to adjust your saw with new gas batches.
But remember, it is not just "E0", it is a synthetic gasoline.
Common brands here are Aspen and Stihl, but you can find it at the pumps too, especially in marine pumps and farm stations.
But remember, it is not just "E0", it is a synthetic gasoline.
Common brands here are Aspen and Stihl, but you can find it at the pumps too, especially in marine pumps and farm stations.
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