IRAQ by Dennis Miller
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So why are there several thousand Canadian troops in Afghanistan right now fighting Al Queda? Germans etc as well)Why have several Canadians been killed fighting Al Queda (including 4 KIA by a US bomb). What are the British doing in Iraq? What about the 53 Tonganese? With this kind of attitude, you can forget about anyone helping the USA get out of the mess it is in in Iraq. Of course you realize that each and every US citizen has shelled out about $2000 for Dubyas Iraqi adventure, and probably will have to shell out another $4000 without outside help, now are you sure you don't need any help, 'cos your government seems to he asking (PLEADING) for help.
You're watching way too much Mike Moore.
I don't listen to Rush, much less watch him (he hasn't been on TV for a long time) Frankly, Rush is more here than your man Moore. Moore is a flaming idiot. You should admit that now, rather than make yourself look bad by supporting him. He needs drugs to make up for the chemical imbalance in his head.
There aren't several thousand canadian troops in afghanistan. The largest mumber of nato troops in afghanistan, are the germans, at 1900 troops. The U.S. lost 5 times the troops in afghanistan, than all other allied forces combined. We do have partners (very, very few partners)in Iraq, but it is not the "west" vs. Iraq. Most of what has been done in Iraq, has been done by "US". I am very thankful for our allies that stood with us in Iraq, no matter how small their contribution. I wish there were more that stood with us, but it is probably for the best, as going into battle with a few of the countries I previously mentioned, "is like duck hunting with your accordion".quote:
Originally posted by mnztr:
So why are there several thousand Canadian troops in Afghanistan right now fighting Al Queda? Germans etc as well)Why have several Canadians been killed fighting Al Queda (including 4 KIA by a US bomb). What are the British doing in Iraq? What about the 53 Tonganese? With this kind of attitude, you can forget about anyone helping the USA get out of the mess it is in in Iraq. Of course you realize that each and every US citizen has shelled out about $2000 for Dubyas Iraqi adventure, and probably will have to shell out another $4000 without outside help, now are you sure you don't need any help, 'cos your government seems to he asking (PLEADING) for help.
[ August 13, 2004, 04:54 PM: Message edited by: sbc350gearhead ]
What is really amazing here is how the so called allies of the US have turned and ran away from helping in the battle against terrorism.
What would Germany,France and all of the other European countries be doing now if the US had never went into Europe in W.W.II? What would Canada be doing?
They sure wouldn't have the freedoms and life that they have now.
I suspect that they would be speaking German and have a bust of Hitler in their government buildings.
I think it is safe to assume that if England had fell to the Nazis that Canada would have followed.
If we really want to get snippy here,Japan attacked the US in W.W.II,what if the US had only fought Japan and then left Europe to Hitler?
Maybe the US should have done just that.
This IS in essence what the so called US allies have done to us.
They say that they are our friends and allies,yet when trouble comes they run the other way.
Once again,maybe this is what the US should have done in W.W.II.
It is evident that the Liberal bunch that is on this site have not taken these things into consideration.
Maybe the next time Europe is in trouble the US should turn and not help them.
It would only be fair to do so.
What would Germany,France and all of the other European countries be doing now if the US had never went into Europe in W.W.II? What would Canada be doing?
They sure wouldn't have the freedoms and life that they have now.
I suspect that they would be speaking German and have a bust of Hitler in their government buildings.
I think it is safe to assume that if England had fell to the Nazis that Canada would have followed.
If we really want to get snippy here,Japan attacked the US in W.W.II,what if the US had only fought Japan and then left Europe to Hitler?
Maybe the US should have done just that.
This IS in essence what the so called US allies have done to us.
They say that they are our friends and allies,yet when trouble comes they run the other way.
Once again,maybe this is what the US should have done in W.W.II.
It is evident that the Liberal bunch that is on this site have not taken these things into consideration.
Maybe the next time Europe is in trouble the US should turn and not help them.
It would only be fair to do so.
I view Michael Moore as a left wing demogogue. His style is very sensationalist. Unfortunately, that is what is required to get the message across in the USA, creepy music etc.....but I challange you to refute any of the basic facts he brought foreward in his movie. Go ahead.....
Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism. Dubya started this war while Osama was still running in the hills of Afghanistan. When the US decided to ignore the opinions of its allies and the world, it was on it's own, and it will be until it stops acting like a rogue state. BTW I read that the US trade deficit just hit a record 55 billion for last month. Your're not gonna sell many goods overseas if the US keeps acting the way it's been acting. If the USA didn't join the war, the US would be German speaking now as well, Hitler was working on nukes and ICBMS. The US is not fighting for it's survival, if it really was, the rest of the west would fight just as hard. The reality is, if you treat your allies like *crap*, they will tell you to get lost.
I'm sorry, I must have missed something. I could swear that I have heard/read that Al-Qaeda had traing camps in Iraq?
Does anyone have any further info on this? I have not heard this disputed.
Does anyone have any further info on this? I have not heard this disputed.
You probably haven't heard it substantiated either.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5305085/site/newsweek/
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,122821,00.html
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/para/al-qaida-iraq.htm
http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=203
That said, there is a good chance that there was Al-Qaeda training at some level going on in Iraq without official Iraqi gumnt santion. Parts of Iraq were pretty lawless under Sadam (and still are).
Actually, if that's the case it's not hard to figure. It was harder for Sadam to run his regime effectively in the no-fly zones, so it would have been easier for Al-Queda to operate there.quote:
Originally posted by mnztr:
The ONLY Al Queda affiliated bunch in Iraq was operating in the area protected by US Air Force patrols (in the no-fly zones). Yes, the US Air Force was protecting Al Queda training camps. Go Figure!!!
'Bout 5 seconds on google should do it.
Fifty-nine Deceits in Fahrenheit 9/11
That guy is quite nice, only calling out 'deceits'
You should see what some other web sites are saying!
Here are some of the bigger whoppers, exposed by the 9/11 commission report but also known PRIOR to release of the Fahrenheit movie:
Saudi nationals left the US after 9/11 and before commercial flights resumed (a lie)
Saudi nationals were not interviewed by the FBI before leaving (a lie)
Bush approved the Saudi nationals departure before commercial flights resumed (a lie, it was Richard Clark)
and yadadadadada from the groupie of the democrat convention, Michael Moore.
Pick your friends wisely. Michael Moore is not your run of the mill Bush hater. He hates the US.
Keith.
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