Interesting Oil change story.

[beast3300]

Originally Posted By: Slippery_Pete
Originally Posted By: beast3300
You will have to wait and see. When the problem becomes consistent you will have more to go on.

ahhhh, don't say that.


It will be ok. I have 210,xxx miles on my GS. And I beat the #$%^ out of it daily. You can't hurt the 3800 (na or sc).

 

[RamFan]

Originally Posted By: kcfx4
Originally Posted By: shpankey
The K&N oil filter is fine. Bitog just has a hate of it. I've used mine in 4 vehicles and UOA'd them all. As long as you do the proper maintenance on it you'll be fine. It certainly wasn't the cause for your issue.

Exactly!


Good god you two. He said K&N AIR filter not OIL filter.

 

[shpankey]

Originally Posted By: RamFan
Originally Posted By: kcfx4
Originally Posted By: shpankey
The K&N oil filter is fine. Bitog just has a hate of it. I've used mine in 4 vehicles and UOA'd them all. As long as you do the proper maintenance on it you'll be fine. It certainly wasn't the cause for your issue.

Exactly!


Good god you two. He said K&N AIR filter not OIL filter.

We weren't talking about the oil filter either. We were talking about the oil'd air filter. Granted I said K&N oil filter, which is poor wording but thought it would be understood as he was talking about oil'ing his filter and I spoke about doing the proper maintenance on it (ie: cleaning it and re-oiling it). There is no maintenance on an oil filter so I thought this would be understood. I assume everyone but you did... but for you, I've made this extra post to explain it. I will make it a point in the future to be extra clear so I don't have to again.

 

[Slippery_Pete]

Thanks for your comments.
I think I'll just forget about this day and continue to love my car. I'll update if something goes wrong from hear.
But I took the car out tonight and gave her an italian tune up to top off the day. 100mph in second gear is awesome BTW

It ran like a top, all the way through.

 

[RamFan]

Originally Posted By: shpankey
Originally Posted By: RamFan
Originally Posted By: kcfx4
Originally Posted By: shpankey
The K&N oil filter is fine. Bitog just has a hate of it. I've used mine in 4 vehicles and UOA'd them all. As long as you do the proper maintenance on it you'll be fine. It certainly wasn't the cause for your issue.

Exactly!


Good god you two. He said K&N AIR filter not OIL filter.

We weren't talking about the oil filter either. We were talking about the oil'd air filter. Granted I said K&N oil filter, which is poor wording but thought it would be understood as he was talking about oil'ing his filter and I spoke about doing the proper maintenance on it (ie: cleaning it and re-oiling it). There is no maintenance on an oil filter so I thought this would be understood. I assume everyone but you did... but for you, I've made this extra post to explain it. I will make it a point in the future to be extra clear so I don't have to again.


Don't try and make me look like the idiot. You said you've run four of them and run used oil analysis on all of them. You were clearly speaking of oil filters. By the way you never spoke about proper maintenance. This isn't a [censored] contest so I'm out.

 

[shpankey]

I'm not trying to make you look like an idiot. lol. If you feel like one, that's not my fault. I was not clearly speaking of an oil filter due to citing used oil analysis. As you may or I guess may not know, a used oil analysis is very good for seeing how well your air filter is working (silicon). As for my supposedly not saying anything about maintenance, read again...
Originally Posted By: shpankey
The K&N oil filter is fine. Bitog just has a hate of it. I've used mine in 4 vehicles and used oil analysis'd them all. As long as you do the proper maintenance on it you'll be fine. It certainly wasn't the cause for your issue.

...that is right there, so not sure how you missed it. To be more clear again, it is poor wording... but if one takes it in the context of the conversation we were having (the 4 immediate posts right before mine) and also reads the surrounding text, it's not that hard to understand what I meant. I left out the word air which was my mistake. Like I said, I will make an effort in the future to be extra clear for those that need it. For others who may not know what we are on about, K&N air filters require being oil'd after cleaning them. They are reusable filters that have kits you can buy with the cleaner and oil to put back on them. Which is why I talked about doing the "proper maintenance on it" ie: as long as you clean it and re-oil it as you're supposed to, they work fine. I know this from doing used oil analysis on 4 different car's that I've used them on, having low silicon levels on the used oil analysis to back it up.

With hindsight, I would have said K&N oil'd air filter is fine if you do the proper maintenance.

 

[jorton]

Walmart double filled a coworkers f250! He discovered the mistake when they tried to charge him for 12 quarts of oil.

 

[jorton]

Walmart double filled a coworkers f250! He discovered the mistake when they tried to charge him for 12 quarts of oil.

Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Originally Posted By: Slippery_Pete

Any thoughts on my somewhat intentional overfilling? Did I potentially harm my motor today?


WalMart accidentally DOUBLE FILLED my '95 Chevy PU. It left a 3' puddle of oil underneath overnight, after I had driven it 30 miles. After a redrain and correct refill, I put another 150,000 on that engine. Relax, you will be just fine.

Was that in Seguin?

 

[Michael_P]

2003 Regal? Horrible shudder? Check vacuum modulator on transmission if equipped. If there is a drop of transmission fluid in the vacuum line or runs out of the modulator when you pull the line this is your problem. The transmission fluid doesn't all get sucked up in the engine and goes in to the crankcase. Seen it at least a dozen times on GM 3&4 speed transaxles.

 

[nitehawk55]

You would never get a vibration like that even if the crank throws where coming in contact with oil , it would have to be way over full by several quarts / ltrs .

Sounds more like an ignition miss to me .

 

[gfh77665]

Originally Posted By: jorton
Walmart double filled a coworkers f250! He discovered the mistake when they tried to charge him for 12 quarts of oil.

Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Originally Posted By: Slippery_Pete

Any thoughts on my somewhat intentional overfilling? Did I potentially harm my motor today?


WalMart accidentally DOUBLE FILLED my '95 Chevy PU. It left a 3' puddle of oil underneath overnight, after I had driven it 30 miles. After a redrain and correct refill, I put another 150,000 on that engine. Relax, you will be just fine.

Was that in Seguin?


No. Beaumont. To their credit, they (manager and helper) came out to my place of work, and did a redrain and fill in the parking lot. I thought the manager was going to have a heart attack as he watched 11-12 quarts come out!

 

[tarbasd]

I bet it is unrelated to the overfill. More likely spark plug issue. It may be just a coincidence that it works no. In fact, if some dirt was causing misfire and it's gone now, you won't see the problem again and we will never know it or sure.

 

[kcfx4]

Originally Posted By: RamFan
Originally Posted By: kcfx4
Originally Posted By: shpankey
The K&N oil filter is fine. Bitog just has a hate of it. I've used mine in 4 vehicles and UOA'd them all. As long as you do the proper maintenance on it you'll be fine. It certainly wasn't the cause for your issue.

Exactly!


Good god you two. He said K&N AIR filter not OIL filter.

I thought it said air, and he obviously meant air as he notes proper maintence, and 4 vehicles (air), uoa (air)

 

[TFB1]

Originally Posted By: tarbasd
I bet it is unrelated to the overfill. More likely spark plug issue. It may be just a coincidence that it works no. In fact, if some dirt was causing misfire and it's gone now, you won't see the problem again and we will never know it or sure.

Agreed, a 1/2 qt isn't going to make any difference...

If it did, that would mean the crank is dipping into the oil on cold start, when it's all in the pan and that's not very likely... Once the engine is running and the oil is circulating the level is usually a quart, maybe two on larger engines, lower than it is with engine off...

On overfill, I've never actually seen a really bad case but before were were married, my wife used to have old Chevy Nova that used some oil... Her dad told her you have to add oil occasionally and she did, until it was 5qts overfull... Got to the point it was very sluggish... She took it to her service guy and he about died laughing when he told her what she'd done... No harm was done and she'd driven it for a few days like that...

 

[21Rouge]

Originally Posted By: TFB1

Agreed, a 1/2 qt isn't going to make any difference...


Pete, we are soo much alike it is...scary

i.e.

- we each changed our oil within a day or two of each other
- we each put in a Canadian only HDEO 0W30
- we each overfilled as well! For me I had replaced the filter only a week earlier (long story

) and so when I drained and filled a week later I forgot to take into account the already filled filter + I wanted to finish off that last bottle of oil so overall I figure I am a half litre over but I am going to leave it as is as it is too cold and too much trouble to get it just right

 

[nitehawk55]

Overfilled 1/2 litre is a non issue .

 

[21Rouge]

Originally Posted By: nitehawk55
Overfilled 1/2 litre is a non issue .


Yup. As I stated above I am leaving it as is.

 

[Slippery_Pete]

Originally Posted By: TFB1
Originally Posted By: tarbasd
I bet it is unrelated to the overfill. More likely spark plug issue. It may be just a coincidence that it works no. In fact, if some dirt was causing misfire and it's gone now, you won't see the problem again and we will never know it or sure.

Agreed, a 1/2 qt isn't going to make any difference...

If it did, that would mean the crank is dipping into the oil on cold start, when it's all in the pan and that's not very likely... Once the engine is running and the oil is circulating the level is usually a quart, maybe two on larger engines, lower than it is with engine off...

On overfill, I've never actually seen a really bad case but before were were married, my wife used to have old Chevy Nova that used some oil... Her dad told her you have to add oil occasionally and she did, until it was 5qts overfull... Got to the point it was very sluggish... She took it to her service guy and he about died laughing when he told her what she'd done... No harm was done and she'd driven it for a few days like that...

I guess I was wrong to assume that my oil was to blame here. It's hard to describe what my car was doing and I honestly had no clue, overfilling was really the only thing that went wrong during this tune up. It must have been a spark issue that I unknowingly corrected during my inspection.

I have often wondered what a severe overfill would do to a car and I guess that the answer was nothing.

Originally Posted By: 21Rouge
Originally Posted By: TFB1

Agreed, a 1/2 qt isn't going to make any difference...


Pete, we are soo much alike it is...scary

i.e.

- we each changed our oil within a day or two of each other
- we each put in a Canadian only HDEO 0W30
- we each overfilled as well! For me I had replaced the filter only a week earlier (long story

) and so when I drained and filled a week later I forgot to take into account the already filled filter + I wanted to finish off that last bottle of oil so overall I figure I am a half litre over but I am going to leave it as is as it is too cold and too much trouble to get it just right

LOL that's cool. Was your car a GM 3800? that would be even more scary.
It's a small world I guess.