Interesting Observation Ballistol/Hoppes 9

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I normally use Shooters Choice Copper Cleaner , for rifles and hand guns . It smells of ammonia , which really does well cleaning copper . It also cleans carbon . I can use hoppies #9 to clean a barrel , then switch to Shooters Choice & it will remove more " stuff " . After I am through , I go back to hoppies to : kill " the ammonia , then oil . In cold weather , automatic transmission fluid seems to make a good lube . In hot weather , 5W-30 synthetic motor oil seems to work well .
 
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Ballistol is a good cleaner but remember it is water soluble so dont count on it for protection from rust long term. Many of the guys including me mix it with water as a lube/cleaner for running patches to keep black powder fouling soft at the range. I can mix 50/50 water/Ballistol in a bottle and it stays mixed for weeks or longer.
 
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Originally Posted by samven
Ballistol is a good cleaner but remember it is water soluble so dont count on it for protection from rust long term. Many of the guys including me mix it with water as a lube/cleaner for running patches to keep black powder fouling soft at the range. I can mix 50/50 water/Ballistol in a bottle and it stays mixed for weeks or longer.
I remember you from a few blackpowder messageboards. Besides regular patches for cleaning barrels, I used a Ballistol mix for my pillow-ticking, roundball patches. TripleSe7en.
 

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Originally Posted by samven
Ballistol is a good cleaner but remember it is water soluble so dont count on it for protection from rust long term. Many of the guys including me mix it with water as a lube/cleaner for running patches to keep black powder fouling soft at the range. I can mix 50/50 water/Ballistol in a bottle and it stays mixed for weeks or longer.
Your "water soluble" point is interesting. I'm thinking mineral oil or silicone rag wipe down for rust protection???
 
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"Long term" rust protection means different things to different people. For most of us, wiping down a weapon with Ballistol once a month or so is perfectly fine for most environments. For others though, maybe "long term" rust protection means slathering the weapon in cosmoline.
 

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Originally Posted by AlaskaMike
"Long term" rust protection means different things to different people. For most of us, wiping down a weapon with Ballistol once a month or so is perfectly fine for most environments. For others though, maybe "long term" rust protection means slathering the weapon in cosmoline.
Agree. I forget the exact makeup of ballistol, but it includes some alcohol, fatty acids (which perhaps react with the alcohol in the presence of metal and air to make esters?) and some oil. Of course the alcohol element will be water soluble, and support that claim. It also IME flashes off. I take no more credence in the claim that ballistol is water soluble and this not good for protection, then I do that motor oil has additives designed to disperse and suspend moisture, this it compromises rust protection. Both may have a sliver of truth, and it is contingent upon the user to select the right tool for the job at hand. Maybe that's ballistol, maybe that's cosmoline...
 
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Originally Posted by samven
Ballistol is a good cleaner but remember it is water soluble so dont count on it for protection from rust long term. Many of the guys including me mix it with water as a lube/cleaner for running patches to keep black powder fouling soft at the range. I can mix 50/50 water/Ballistol in a bottle and it stays mixed for weeks or longer.
This is a common misconception. Ballistol isn't water soluble. Instead Ballistol can form an emulsion with water (using oleic acid as the emulsifying agent). It's base is the same mineral oil that is the base for other countless gun care products. It'll function very well for rust prevention unless you're storing firearms in a poor environment.
 
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