Interesting FCP Euro statement on BMW 0w-20
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So the same scaremongering that we went through on USA/Asian specs 10-15 years ago??
Weren't all those cars running 0-W20 going to wear out prematurely?
Surely I'd expect to see scads of them lined up on the side of the road with spun bearings or rod knock by now.
Except I don't see that.
They just seem to keep going and going.
In fact, used cars on the road are now lasting longer than they ever have.
Once again, a great big nothing burger.
Weren't all those cars running 0-W20 going to wear out prematurely?
Surely I'd expect to see scads of them lined up on the side of the road with spun bearings or rod knock by now.
Except I don't see that.
They just seem to keep going and going.
In fact, used cars on the road are now lasting longer than they ever have.
Once again, a great big nothing burger.
While the statement is not wrong, it needs to be put into context. Would I track a B58 with 0w20? Unlikely. Would I let my wife use it in her daily driver? You bet.
I wonder what their statement will be on the 0w12.
End of the day you can trust the people who engineer and provide the warranty on the engine/car, or you can trust FCP Euro. Your choice.
I wonder what their statement will be on the 0w12.
End of the day you can trust the people who engineer and provide the warranty on the engine/car, or you can trust FCP Euro. Your choice.
Agreed, it's hard for blanket statements like this to be accurate without knowing the use case of the vehicles. With that said, my guess is that a lot of FCP's customers are enthusiasts instead of the typical BMW owner.
It's possible the LL14FE+ is difficult to stock and IIRC the associated ACEA category no longer exists (A1/B1). LL01 is two categories higher in HTHS compared to LL14FE with LL01FE in the middle.
Another thing is why wouldn't they offer LL01FE? Oh that's right. It's difficult to stock. Or perhaps they haven't updated their FAQ since the B-series engines have been running low saps 20w LL17FE or LL01FE rather than LL14FE+ (i.e. ACEA A1/B1 no longer exists).
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Physics matters. At least to some people.
0W40 or 5W40 on the track! Ravenol VMP 5W30 everyday.
Waste of time. They are essentially the same viscosity, within 10%. Probably less after shear.
AZjeff
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Articulate please. 0W-20 or 5W-30?
They might be right in this instance, but a parts reseller is not a resource I would recommend taking technical advice from in general.
Seriously.
If Rockauto put out a statement like this it would be laughed around the block by a significant contingent (me included) on this board.
And rightly so.
The fact that it's a Euro parts reseller shouldn't add a lick of additional gravitas. It's is akin to saying "but the warehouse guys told me something different!"
Sheesh!!!
edyvw
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I personally would never use 0W20, and you know that.
Why they do this?
5W30 is MUCH cheaper with higher profit margin. In FCP case that matters as they do that free exchange. They are taking hit on LL17 that is not the cheapest oil.
Why they do this?
5W30 is MUCH cheaper with higher profit margin. In FCP case that matters as they do that free exchange. They are taking hit on LL17 that is not the cheapest oil.
Sort of like making an oil determination based upon a $30 spectrographic analysis?
Or you can do some research and trust your own judgment.
Meh, this is really a non sequitur.
If you say so but I don’t think that it is. The recommendation from FCP is based upon a valid physical reason.
It’s also true that no grade is “required” since it is a recommendation. Many people like to think that they are requirements but they are not.
It’s also true that no grade is “required” since it is a recommendation. Many people like to think that they are requirements but they are not.
f355spider
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Appears FCP Euro carries a few options in LL01-FE
https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw-engine-oil-07510017866
https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/specific-ll-01fe-5w30-engine-oil-5-liters-motul-109371
https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mini-engine-oil-cooper-07510143829
https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/5w...30-special-tec-b-fe-5-liters-liqui-moly-20444
edyvw
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Under warranty, Motul LL01FE is the way to go.
FCP...a bit different RA here. Keep in mind they do a bit of racing/build race cars and will have quite a bit of knowledge and experience on-staff. They cater to enthusiasts and the recommendation is sound for cars being tracked or that are modified so oil warranty worries aren't likely a concern for many of their customers.
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