Im trying to inspect a bushing but

[Carnoobie]

Originally Posted By: yonyon
Originally Posted By: Carnoobie
now im not happy. Both the front and rear knuckle bushings are toast.

Be happy. You've got some evidence to show that the problem is finally going to be fixed. Every time I remove a part and find that I can now see it's clearly shot that makes me feel good.

Originally Posted By: Carnoobie

I dont know, can 3 months of DD on a bushing that was torqued with car in the air (meaning has some twist) go bad in just 3 months?


If it were a brand new bushing, maybe. An older dried out bushing? A couple of days could do it.


The back bushing is still stock and apparently each time you take these out, they need to be replaced. But the idiot at the shop, noooo he goes its fine and just reinstalls it, and not only that but with the car in the air. Idiot!!!! Probably shot my bushing right there.

So now i have to order a back bushing tommorow and get it tues, probabably cant get it put in til Thurs cause mech is busy.

 

[Carnoobie]

my old bushing

 

[Carnoobie]

So my only question is, if you were me, would you replace the back bushing now or just hold off til it deteriates more and makes noise?

Im already [censored] off about having to spend even more money fixing this POS car. Uhhhh seriously!!! First end links (which i never even HAD to replace to begin with!) and now this.

 

[yonyon]

The bushing is already damaged. If it becomes more damaged during an attempt at reinstalling it you'll still be buying a new one and you'll have to drop the car off another time. Maybe start looking for a mechanic who does what you ask him to instead of what he feels like doing at the time.

 

[Tegger]

Originally Posted By: Carnoobie
can 3 months of DD on a bushing that was torqued with car in the air (meaning has some twist) go bad in just 3 months?

In just a few DAYS.

And you should find a real mechanic, one who has a hoist. No professional mechanic is going to work on cars suspended on jack stands.

 

[Carnoobie]

Originally Posted By: yonyon
The bushing is already damaged. If it becomes more damaged during an attempt at reinstalling it you'll still be buying a new one and you'll have to drop the car off another time. Maybe start looking for a mechanic who does what you ask him to instead of what he feels like doing at the time.


Well before he put it in, he asked if i wanted to hold off until i get both bushings on hand. Said be cheaper on labour but i was already anxious and said might as well put the front one in for now since he alresdy had the car apart. And ill order the other today.

The one to blame is te idiot at the shop 3 months ago and thats why i no longer see him!
He had no choice but to reinstall the old back bushing anyway. I dont put any blame on him. He did what i asked.

 

[Carnoobie]

Originally Posted By: Tegger
Originally Posted By: Carnoobie
can 3 months of DD on a bushing that was torqued with car in the air (meaning has some twist) go bad in just 3 months?

In just a few DAYS.

And you should find a real mechanic, one who has a hoist. No professional mechanic is going to work on cars suspended on jack stands.


The idiot mech who twisted my bushing has a shop and a hoist. Never seeing him again.

The one last night who put new bushing in is not the same guy. Lots mechs work with stands , hoists arent chesp.

Im not trying to argue with you but just wanted to clear it up.

 

[Astro14]

Originally Posted By: Carnoobie
Originally Posted By: Tegger
Originally Posted By: Carnoobie
can 3 months of DD on a bushing that was torqued with car in the air (meaning has some twist) go bad in just 3 months?

In just a few DAYS.

And you should find a real mechanic, one who has a hoist. No professional mechanic is going to work on cars suspended on jack stands.


The idiot mech who twisted my bushing has a shop and a hoist. Never seeing him again.

The one last night who put new bushing in is not the same guy. Lots mechs work with stands , hoists arent chesp.

Im not trying to argue with you but just wanted to clear it up.


I think that your understanding of "mech" is different than mine... a "mech" or a "tech" works in a dedicated shop, a licensed business. Said shop will have a hoist, compressor, etc. as well as insurance and some measure of certification/training.

Sounds like you've got a backyard guy working on your car - that may be fine for some things, but I think you're experiencing some of the reasons why you should only trust your car to a certified shop - ostensibly, they won't make mistakes that cost you bushings...and while the certified shop might cost more initially, what is the cost of having to do the bushings over again?

I am a backyard guy, I have a regular job, but I do my own work on cars. I have a few jackstands, a few roll-away toolboxes, air tools, etc. and have rebuilt engines, transmissions, painted a few cars and yes, done suspensions...and while I wouldn't call myself a professional, I don't generally make the kind of noob mistakes that these guys are making with your car...

I think it's time to reconsider where you take your car for service...

 

[Carnoobie]

I know where yiure coming from but Well heres the scary thing, the shop who ruined by back bushing, was a certified licensed shop. Not just that but a honda specialized one. It wasnt a backyard mech who ruined it but a licensed shop.

Amd i was mentioned about them by referals.

Originally Posted By: Astro14
Originally Posted By: Carnoobie
Originally Posted By: Tegger
Originally Posted By: Carnoobie
can 3 months of DD on a bushing that was torqued with car in the air (meaning has some twist) go bad in just 3 months?

In just a few DAYS.

And you should find a real mechanic, one who has a hoist. No professional mechanic is going to work on cars suspended on jack stands.


The idiot mech who twisted my bushing has a shop and a hoist. Never seeing him again.

The one last night who put new bushing in is not the same guy. Lots mechs work with stands , hoists arent chesp.

Im not trying to argue with you but just wanted to clear it up.


I think that your understanding of "mech" is different than mine... a "mech" or a "tech" works in a dedicated shop, a licensed business. Said shop will have a hoist, compressor, etc. as well as insurance and some measure of certification/training.

Sounds like you've got a backyard guy working on your car - that may be fine for some things, but I think you're experiencing some of the reasons why you should only trust your car to a certified shop - ostensibly, they won't make mistakes that cost you bushings...and while the certified shop might cost more initially, what is the cost of having to do the bushings over again?

I am a backyard guy, I have a regular job, but I do my own work on cars. I have a few jackstands, a few roll-away toolboxes, air tools, etc. and have rebuilt engines, transmissions, painted a few cars and yes, done suspensions...and while I wouldn't call myself a professional, I don't generally make the kind of noob mistakes that these guys are making with your car...

I think it's time to reconsider where you take your car for service...

 

[Tegger]

Originally Posted By: Astro14
Said shop will have a hoist, compressor, etc. as well as insurance and some measure of certification/training.

Yep. If the "mech" doesn't have a hoist, he's not a real "mech".

Hoists are to an auto repair shop what cooking-surfaces are to a restaurant: indispensable.

 

[Carnoobie]

Just got the back bushing put in. you can feel it after just sitting in the car, feels a lot stiffer suspension. Didnt think it would be this noticable wow.

 

[Carnoobie]

WELL WHATEVER, it didnt fix it anyways. Replaced both jnuckle bushings and noise starting to come back 3 days later. What a ****** joke, this is ****** ridiculous.

Now you know why no one can figure this out. I bet no one will figure this out cause its unfixable.

I mean i had to replace the bushings regardless cause they were worn out but still. You dont know how bad i wanna take a sledgehammer to this POS.

Im almost thinking its the tire or rim itself. Perhaps the sound of the rubber tire rubbing on the metal rim

 

[mechanicx]

Usually what will make a suspension squeaky is corrosion at the sway bar bushing (on the bar not just the links) although other bushing can squeak too. Although, I thought you said the sway bar bushings were replaced but this thread is so long I'm not sure. Maybe they weren't really replaced and you were just told they were

. Or maybe the bar under the bushing needed cleaned up and a rubber safe silicone grease is needed.

 

[Carnoobie]

Originally Posted By: mechanicx
Usually what will make a suspension squeaky is corrosion at the sway bar bushing (on the bar not just the links) although other bushing can squeak too. Although, I thought you said the sway bar bushings were replaced but this thread is so long I'm not sure. Maybe they weren't really replaced and you were just told they were

. Or maybe the bar under the bushing needed cleaned up and a rubber safe silicone grease is needed.


The sway bar bushings and even endlinks were replaced 3 weeks ago. And bushings were greased. I was there and saw it.

It has to do with either the strut, the spring, or strut hat. The spring and strut hat is the only parts that are still stock. I still think theres a chance the strut is twisting the rubber hat at the top and causing it to bind. But I dont want to pay for mech to take it out for nothing.

What i dont get is why each time i replace a part or the car is hoisted up (meaning suspension is off the load), the noise goes away completely 100% for the next few days but slowly comes back. I figure if it was something like my strut or the spring, the noise would occur right after i put the car back down.

 

[ComfyShorts]

Originally Posted By: ComfyShorts
No seriously this went on too long. For your own sanity sake take your car to the dealership, tell them your car makes a squeaky squeaky, don't tell them what you think it is because at this point your opinion is useless since you don't seem to know the difference between the tire of the car and its engine. Wait couple of hours the dealer will give you a call "ring ring ring...oh yes mr.carnoobie you need for squeaking you are hearing, and we also recommend . And there you're done...you probably saved money by not replacing because that's what some jiffy lube mechanic thinks is making sound. Then you pay, return home and make a post thanking me. You're welcome

Quoting myself again since it still applies. Imagine all the money you could've saved by going this route at start.

 

[yonyon]

If you really want this noise fixed it can be done. When it's a tough one like this it can be expensive. My rule for the tough squeaks is if you can demonstrate the noise, leave the car for a week, and commit to shop labor rate for actual time up to three full days it will get fixed. The big question is how much the squeak bothers you. Some noises aren't $3k worth of annoying.