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Any good .22 rifle. Second choice, any good .22 pistol, revolver or automatic. Back in the 90's a kid was shot to death at a mall about 50' from me. Single shot to the chest with a .22. He bled out in seconds. He was 15. I had a 9mm on me and felt completely helpless.
Beware the man with one gun...chances are he knows how to use it!
Or Hec Ramsey.
AR in 6.8SPC
Hand guns are good choices, but can't beat a rifle for power and accuracy given the same cartridge.
.22LR is perfect for all the reasons above. But it doesn't have deer dropping or man dropping power.
.223/5.56x45 is a great cartridge in many ways, but loses out to the 7.62x39 close up. An AR in 7.62x39 would be a good choice....
I just love the 6.8SPC. It was developed for this very reason. Of course the HUGE weakness, no one else knows that and there isn't much/any ammo! So get plenty of brass, dies, bullets, powder,etc....
OR heck, just get a 7.62x51/.308 AR.
Hand guns are good choices, but can't beat a rifle for power and accuracy given the same cartridge.
.22LR is perfect for all the reasons above. But it doesn't have deer dropping or man dropping power.
.223/5.56x45 is a great cartridge in many ways, but loses out to the 7.62x39 close up. An AR in 7.62x39 would be a good choice....
I just love the 6.8SPC. It was developed for this very reason. Of course the HUGE weakness, no one else knows that and there isn't much/any ammo! So get plenty of brass, dies, bullets, powder,etc....
OR heck, just get a 7.62x51/.308 AR.
Originally Posted By: ridgerunner
Beware the man with one gun...chances are he knows how to use it!
I alway doubted that one. Most people ive known with only one gun just have the one because they rarely shoot that one. Every really good shooter I've known had more guns than they could count.
Beware the man with one gun...chances are he knows how to use it!
I alway doubted that one. Most people ive known with only one gun just have the one because they rarely shoot that one. Every really good shooter I've known had more guns than they could count.
Ok, I'll have to take what Pablo said into consideration and seeing people offering Thompson Center suggestions, I'll revise my choice to:
Colt AR or Bushmaster with .22LR kit.
Never used a .22LR kit and only shot an AR once in Calgary on Blackfoot trail at an indoor range with .223 ammo.
Anyone have any comments on .22LR conversion kits for AR-15's?
Who makes the best AR? Bushmaster, Colt?
Colt AR or Bushmaster with .22LR kit.
Never used a .22LR kit and only shot an AR once in Calgary on Blackfoot trail at an indoor range with .223 ammo.
Anyone have any comments on .22LR conversion kits for AR-15's?
Who makes the best AR? Bushmaster, Colt?
Originally Posted By: Falken
Ok, I'll have to take what Pablo said into consideration and seeing people offering Thompson Center suggestions, I'll revise my choice to:
Colt AR or Bushmaster with .22LR kit.
Never used a .22LR kit and only shot an AR once in Calgary on Blackfoot trail at an indoor range with .223 ammo.
Anyone have any comments on .22LR conversion kits for AR-15's?
Who makes the best AR? Bushmaster, Colt?
People will say different, and say things like "_______ is just as good as..." but I like Colt. I think it's the standard for comparison. I tell this a lot, but one more can't hurt:
Full-time instructors see ever make if every gun out there, they know what works ubder hard use and what doesn't, and every one of them I know owns Colt.
Regarding conversion kits: I only have experience with the CMMG. Places like CDNN have it on sale fairly often for around $150. It took a few magazines of shooting to break in, but after that it has generally worked fine until it gets dirty and nasty.
I have a spare upper that I leave it in, because it does get dirty, especially in and around the all-important chamber area. I wouldn't switch back to 5.56 without giving at least that area a good cleaning, and by using the spare upper I don't have to.
The point if impact was so different with most barrels that it was either adjust the sight a lot (and risk forgetting) or hold off, neither of which is optimal.
Before I dedicated that old upper to it, I found that some barrels shot .22 OK and some didn't. Even when the barrels were otherwise identical- same make, twist, material, one would do fine and the other would scatter shots. It's a blind draw whether your gun will like .22s or not.
With the barrels that do best with .22, accuracy is OK to good, but not great. For why I need it to do, it only needs to stay on an IPSC/IDPA size silhouette at 50 yards, which it does easily. I have .22 rifles that shoot well, so will use those if an when I need better. I just need cheap practice with an AR.
My biggest complaint is that it doesn't operate the regular bolt stop, which screws up reloading practice some.
So yes, there are negatives. But I happened to have an upper that handled .22s fine, so it works for me.
Ok, I'll have to take what Pablo said into consideration and seeing people offering Thompson Center suggestions, I'll revise my choice to:
Colt AR or Bushmaster with .22LR kit.
Never used a .22LR kit and only shot an AR once in Calgary on Blackfoot trail at an indoor range with .223 ammo.
Anyone have any comments on .22LR conversion kits for AR-15's?
Who makes the best AR? Bushmaster, Colt?
People will say different, and say things like "_______ is just as good as..." but I like Colt. I think it's the standard for comparison. I tell this a lot, but one more can't hurt:
Full-time instructors see ever make if every gun out there, they know what works ubder hard use and what doesn't, and every one of them I know owns Colt.
Regarding conversion kits: I only have experience with the CMMG. Places like CDNN have it on sale fairly often for around $150. It took a few magazines of shooting to break in, but after that it has generally worked fine until it gets dirty and nasty.
I have a spare upper that I leave it in, because it does get dirty, especially in and around the all-important chamber area. I wouldn't switch back to 5.56 without giving at least that area a good cleaning, and by using the spare upper I don't have to.
The point if impact was so different with most barrels that it was either adjust the sight a lot (and risk forgetting) or hold off, neither of which is optimal.
Before I dedicated that old upper to it, I found that some barrels shot .22 OK and some didn't. Even when the barrels were otherwise identical- same make, twist, material, one would do fine and the other would scatter shots. It's a blind draw whether your gun will like .22s or not.
With the barrels that do best with .22, accuracy is OK to good, but not great. For why I need it to do, it only needs to stay on an IPSC/IDPA size silhouette at 50 yards, which it does easily. I have .22 rifles that shoot well, so will use those if an when I need better. I just need cheap practice with an AR.
My biggest complaint is that it doesn't operate the regular bolt stop, which screws up reloading practice some.
So yes, there are negatives. But I happened to have an upper that handled .22s fine, so it works for me.
Does anyone make an actual AR variant that shoots .22LR?
That would be kind of cool.
I have a very old Squire Bingham M-16/.22 with a collapsible stock I got for x-mas when I was 12 years old, my father bought it from Canadian Tire.
It was very reliable, and I shot it a lot with it's 15 round magazines. One thing that I loved was it's accuracy for a fixed peep sight. I was able to hit 12 gauge empties through the brass at 40-50 yards with ease.
I started using CB Longs in it and started to break extractors from it not cycling properly (was using it for low noise black bird shooting and was cycling it by hand) and haven't bothered to order another extractor since.
That would be kind of cool.
I have a very old Squire Bingham M-16/.22 with a collapsible stock I got for x-mas when I was 12 years old, my father bought it from Canadian Tire.
It was very reliable, and I shot it a lot with it's 15 round magazines. One thing that I loved was it's accuracy for a fixed peep sight. I was able to hit 12 gauge empties through the brass at 40-50 yards with ease.
I started using CB Longs in it and started to break extractors from it not cycling properly (was using it for low noise black bird shooting and was cycling it by hand) and haven't bothered to order another extractor since.
Originally Posted By: BarryinIN
Originally Posted By: ridgerunner
Beware the man with one gun...chances are he knows how to use it!
I alway doubted that one. Most people ive known with only one gun just have the one because they rarely shoot that one. Every really good shooter I've known had more guns than they could count.
I have seen it a few times at the range. When the CZ52, and Makarovs were dirt cheap I saw some guys who made those old Com Bloc guns work pretty well for them since the ammo was also dirt cheap and you could really get a lot of practicing in. But I have seen the flipside. I bought my Ruger 357 Police Service Six from a woman who just had it as a night stand gun for 20 years and maybe fired 50 shots through it in that time.
Originally Posted By: ridgerunner
Beware the man with one gun...chances are he knows how to use it!
I alway doubted that one. Most people ive known with only one gun just have the one because they rarely shoot that one. Every really good shooter I've known had more guns than they could count.
I have seen it a few times at the range. When the CZ52, and Makarovs were dirt cheap I saw some guys who made those old Com Bloc guns work pretty well for them since the ammo was also dirt cheap and you could really get a lot of practicing in. But I have seen the flipside. I bought my Ruger 357 Police Service Six from a woman who just had it as a night stand gun for 20 years and maybe fired 50 shots through it in that time.
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Originally Posted By: Falken
Does anyone make an actual AR variant that shoots .22LR?
That would be kind of cool.
I have a very old Squire Bingham M-16/.22 with a collapsible stock I got for x-mas when I was 12 years old, my father bought it from Canadian Tire.
It was very reliable, and I shot it a lot with it's 15 round magazines. One thing that I loved was it's accuracy for a fixed peep sight. I was able to hit 12 gauge empties through the brass at 40-50 yards with ease.
I started using CB Longs in it and started to break extractors from it not cycling properly (was using it for low noise black bird shooting and was cycling it by hand) and haven't bothered to order another extractor since.
Yes there are plenty out there, like smith-wesson, or you can just get a bolt kit and some magazines and use it in a .223/5.56 AR
Does anyone make an actual AR variant that shoots .22LR?
That would be kind of cool.
I have a very old Squire Bingham M-16/.22 with a collapsible stock I got for x-mas when I was 12 years old, my father bought it from Canadian Tire.
It was very reliable, and I shot it a lot with it's 15 round magazines. One thing that I loved was it's accuracy for a fixed peep sight. I was able to hit 12 gauge empties through the brass at 40-50 yards with ease.
I started using CB Longs in it and started to break extractors from it not cycling properly (was using it for low noise black bird shooting and was cycling it by hand) and haven't bothered to order another extractor since.
Yes there are plenty out there, like smith-wesson, or you can just get a bolt kit and some magazines and use it in a .223/5.56 AR
Originally Posted By: Falken
Does anyone make an actual AR variant that shoots .22LR?
That would be kind of cool.
I have a very old Squire Bingham M-16/.22 with a collapsible stock I got for x-mas when I was 12 years old, my father bought it from Canadian Tire.
It was very reliable, and I shot it a lot with it's 15 round magazines. One thing that I loved was it's accuracy for a fixed peep sight. I was able to hit 12 gauge empties through the brass at 40-50 yards with ease.
I started using CB Longs in it and started to break extractors from it not cycling properly (was using it for low noise black bird shooting and was cycling it by hand) and haven't bothered to order another extractor since.
I have a ciener kit in my old Colt SP1. The accuracy tends to be better in this upper because the twist of the barrel on the old ones is slower and more in line with that on a 22 dedicated rifle. But yes, if you pick up a shotgun news there are lots of companies that make upper assemblies to use on an AR lower.
Does anyone make an actual AR variant that shoots .22LR?
That would be kind of cool.
I have a very old Squire Bingham M-16/.22 with a collapsible stock I got for x-mas when I was 12 years old, my father bought it from Canadian Tire.
It was very reliable, and I shot it a lot with it's 15 round magazines. One thing that I loved was it's accuracy for a fixed peep sight. I was able to hit 12 gauge empties through the brass at 40-50 yards with ease.
I started using CB Longs in it and started to break extractors from it not cycling properly (was using it for low noise black bird shooting and was cycling it by hand) and haven't bothered to order another extractor since.
I have a ciener kit in my old Colt SP1. The accuracy tends to be better in this upper because the twist of the barrel on the old ones is slower and more in line with that on a 22 dedicated rifle. But yes, if you pick up a shotgun news there are lots of companies that make upper assemblies to use on an AR lower.
AMT Hardballer Longslide
WHY can I only own one?
I mean is everything normal except this one gun stupidity or are we in some post apocalyptic nightmare where I need to use it to defend against the mutant hoard and put food on the table?
If the former: Special Combat Government Model in Super
The latter: LE6920
I mean is everything normal except this one gun stupidity or are we in some post apocalyptic nightmare where I need to use it to defend against the mutant hoard and put food on the table?
If the former: Special Combat Government Model in Super
The latter: LE6920
Originally Posted By: zerosoma
AMT Hardballer Longslide
As long as its a later one. The early ones had severe galling issues because the slide and frame were the same stainless alloy.
AMT Hardballer Longslide
As long as its a later one. The early ones had severe galling issues because the slide and frame were the same stainless alloy.
SKS, or if Post-Apocalyptic, then flintlock 50 cal. rifle.
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I would choose my L1A1
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