If HPL was NOT a sponsor here then how would it truly compare to other boutique oils like redline and Amsoil? What makes HPL different and special?

Pablo said:
This.

So many "best" threads. I actually enjoyed it when Tony didn't allow best oil threads.

What I have a problem with, some people who try to talk others out of Amsoil used to say things like ".........$1.99/qt oil is just as good, especially if you don't go beyond XXXX miles". I'm not seeing this so much with HPL. I think there some real fan bois here is all I am saying.
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Is this not true though? For regular daily drivers with no issues, if you're not pushing extended drains, then yes, cheap oil that means the spec will be just as good in actual practice as Amsoil or any other boutique motor oil.

Agree with you that there are some real fan bois here.
 
cheesepuffs2 said:
Is this not true though? For regular daily drivers with no issues, if you're not pushing extended drains, then yes, cheap oil that means the spec will be just as good in actual practice as Amsoil or any other boutique motor oil.

Agree with you that there are some real fan bois here.
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Agree generally but is engine dependent to some extent.
 
Pablo said:
What I have a problem with, some people who try to talk others out of Amsoil used to say things like ".........$1.99/qt oil is just as good, especially if you don't go beyond XXXX miles". I'm not seeing this so much with HPL. I think there some real fan bois here is all I am saying.
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Many on this board are absolutely fascinated by how complete strangers spend their money.
 
cheesepuffs2 said:
Is this not true though? For regular daily drivers with no issues, if you're not pushing extended drains, then yes, cheap oil that means the spec will be just as good in actual practice as Amsoil or any other boutique motor oil.

Agree with you that there are some real fan bois here.
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But I turn you have some real haters here.
 
spasm3 said:
I'm curious what the definition, or description of Fan boys ( bois ? spelling ?). What defines a fan boy ?
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One part of being a fan boy: They disagree/dispute everything that's said negatively about their "idol" (be it Amsoil, HPL, Apple, Ford, etc).

Another: They repeat stories, usually starting with "I heard....", but have zero personal or hands-on experience with the specific matter.
 
JustN89 said:
Many on this board are absolutely fascinated by how complete strangers spend their money.
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Man ain't that the truth. A few years ago, many here had a seething, irrational hatred of Royal Purple products. I mean real hate! It was the "worst thing EVER" to buy. Digging deeper, most haters admitted they never bought a single quart of it, but they still had blind hate for it.

It fascinated me too how they could be so upset that a few people did choose to buy it, with their own money. Of course I hope everyone makes wise purchases, but why would posters become unhinged because some stranger on the 'net chose to buy RP oil? Absolutely crazy.
 
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Direct_Rejection said:
Crunch the numbers gang, about extended OCIs and real price.

These pricey boutique oils are very often the more economical option.
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That's true but only if your going to do extended OCI's.
As someone who aims for approx. 6 to 7K OCI's maximum using off the shelf synthetics I think boutique oils are unnecessary in my situation. I am however interested in HPL's Engine Cleaner which seems reasonably priced for use every few years.

As far as 'fan boys' go....I've been on this site long enough to see them come and go. There was a time when Auto-RX was considered a great product....now it's rarely if ever mentioned.....the same goes for Pennzoil Ultra Platinum.
 
I sincerely think HPL products are excellent. I believe the company is top notch and is dedicated to providing a great product to the public.

With that said, HPL has been overhyped here. I don't think its intentional or a payback for sponsorships or anything like that. Its just the snowball - bandwagon effect, a shiny new oil has arrived and so now its the "greatest thing ever" to jump on.

I noticed a few days ago I said in jest HPL will "fix dead batteries and flat tires", and I got a number of likes. I think the hype is evaporating a bit.

HPL is a great oil, but its just that. An oil. It won't miraculously make your 20 year old vehicle brand new or get your vehicle to 1,000,000 miles. Being realistic about HPL is a good thing.
 
Hall said:
One part of being a fan boy: They disagree/dispute everything that's said negatively about their "idol" (be it Amsoil, HPL, Apple, Ford, etc).

Another: They repeat stories, usually starting with "I heard....", but have zero personal or hands-on experience with the specific matter.
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We’ll call that “heard mentality”.
My father in law’s cousin’s neighbour said….
 
Hall said:
Everything else he said is purely subjective
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That's fair, but in a thread asking what makes HPL better or different, wouldn't the next logical question be something like:

"How are the base stocks and/or additives better?"

"What is the basis for saying their oils perform better and last longer?"

I don't know if any of those statements are true, nor do I have any particular reason to believe they aren't. I do know they're more relevant to the thread than a facility tour.
 
Pablo said:
This.

So many "best" threads. I actually enjoyed it when Tony didn't allow best oil threads.

HPL appears to use a very strong -OH (as in basic) additive that holds the pH/TBN up for a long time. I don't see a problem with this. Seems to not impact Al and other soft metals.

That said, most of their oils follow the Amsoil early model of not getting approvals and certifications. I don't see a problem with this.

What I have a problem with, some people who try to talk others out of Amsoil used to say things like ".........$1.99/qt oil is just as good, especially if you don't go beyond XXXX miles". I'm not seeing this so much with HPL. I think there some real fan bois here is all I am saying.
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The one that I always got a kick out of was the strange anger in some posts that would mention the "outrageous Amsoil sales method!"
I dont know what to think of that one? :unsure:Maybe they felt a dealer tried to screw them thru over charging ? I am not now nor have ever been a dealer, only an Amsoil user/customer since the early 1990s.
 
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If you've been on this board long enough (even just lurking, ignoring for the moment that you may be a previous member, given the familiarity with past topics) to be familiar with AutoRX, then you've certainly been around long enough to see the threads on Dr. Rudnick and the various HPL oil filter C&P's, Dave blending folks custom oils...etc.

Dave went out of his way to get an entire product line designed for the folks that didn't want any VII in their finished lube. Who does that?

So yeah, that's gained them some popularity on here, popularity that I think would be just as strong if they weren't a sponsor, because being a sponsor didn't require them to do all of this stuff for the membership.
 
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