ICE ban in EU stumbles

As I said here numerous times, the political prospects of this ban are dire. Various entities are rushing to ban ICE, just to stumble bcs. there is no political viability.
Expect this in CA too:

https://www.electrive.com/2023/03/0...bustion-engines-due-to-meddling-from-germany/
So the FDP decided at the last moment to hold up the deal because they wanted to insert e-fuels in the legislation.. Gotta keep Germans employed in factories churning out automotive parts for ICE it seems.
 
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So the FDP is holding up the deal at the last moment because they wanted to insert e-fuels in the legislation.. Gotta keep Germans employed in factories churning out automotive parts for ICE.
Anyone that knows a fraction about politics, is aware this won't work. It is not only Germany. EU cannot supply electricity now, let alone if they ban ICE. I mean, this ban is DUMB! Plain and simple, when it comes to dumb legislations, there is pretty tough competition in the EU, but this one takes the prize.
 
Anyone that knows a fraction about politics, is aware this won't work. It is not only Germany. EU cannot supply electricity now, let alone if they ban ICE. I mean, this ban is DUMB! Plain and simple, when it comes to dumb legislations, there is pretty tough competition in the EU, but this one takes the prize.
True but it's funny when everything was fine and then automakers at the last moment tried to slip something into the bill which from an energy efficiency stand point is worse than the status quo of using fossil fuels.

https://theicct.org/e-fuels-eu-co2-standards-jun22/

https://theicct.org/e-fuels-wont-save-the-internal-combustion-engine/
 
So the FDP decided at the last moment to hold up the deal because they wanted to insert e-fuels in the legislation.. Gotta keep Germans employed in factories churning out automotive parts for ICE it seems.
Way I read it, A single German party wanted e-fuels - and since they can't even agree among themselves the Germans would need to abstain. Italy, Poland and Bulgaria have already said they would vote not. So they pulled it rather than having it fail on the floor.

Not just Germany.
 
True but it's funny when everything was fine and then automakers at the last moment tried to slip something into the bill which from an energy efficiency stand point is worse than the status quo of using fossil fuels.

https://theicct.org/e-fuels-eu-co2-standards-jun22/

https://theicct.org/e-fuels-wont-save-the-internal-combustion-engine/
It happens all the time. Read the average bill from Congress, and you will find subsidies for pig farms in bills authorizing the sale of F16s.
 
For ICE vs BEV, sure. In general, no. The markets would never have adopted catalytic convertors and emissions controls, not with how poor they worked back in the '70's. Yet today we reap the benefits.

Sometimes things can be natural/organic, other times...
Government MUST have a role in this. Those who think that markets can be 100% "free" doesn't understand that capitalism is only possible WITH government regulation.
But, banning ICE is jumping a gun bcs. trend.
 
As I said here numerous times, the political prospects of this ban are dire. Various entities are rushing to ban ICE, just to stumble bcs. there is no political viability.
Expect this in CA too:

https://www.electrive.com/2023/03/0...bustion-engines-due-to-meddling-from-germany/
Lithium batteries will never replace the ICE for the majority of vehicles.
Only the most out to lunch person on planet earth would believe they could and there is no reason they should.

But that’s over there anyway, Americans will never accept being inconvenienced to charge up a battery operated vehicle.
Then, again, that’s why we have such a good life over here
 
As I said here numerous times, the political prospects of this ban are dire. Various entities are rushing to ban ICE, just to stumble bcs. there is no political viability.
Expect this in CA too:

https://www.electrive.com/2023/03/0...bustion-engines-due-to-meddling-from-germany/
I've said this from the beginning as well. Forcing people to choice EV when it can't do what is needed to replace ICE is just plain stupid and it isn't going to work no matter how many idiots in governments pretend it will.
 
The whole EV agenda is about peak oil, which is upon us, but governments don't want to admit this openly because that would cause panic. This is also driving the push to make e-fuels.

This is not the last we'll hear of battles over this.

If you ask me, we should have begun phasing to hydrogen a long time ago. Better to deal with the issues around generating hydrogen than to deal with brownouts and blackouts from EVs overloading electric grids. Notice that various automakers were working on hydrogen as fuel for ICEs and not on EVs back in the 1980s–1990s. That research should have continued.
 
Lithium batteries will never replace the ICE
Only the most out to lunch person on planet earth would believe they could.
We have big problems with ev cars. There must not be any dents in the battery pack, otherwise the car will not pass the annual inspection. And in cold climates it becomes expensive to own an electric car
 
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