I think the time with our Jeep is sadly coming to an end

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I used to be in the ‘dump it and move on camp’, but with pricing and stock in the current market, fix it and drive it for a while longer.
You won’t save as much in gas as you think; and how much you will have to pay for a newer vehicle, you can buy a lot of $1.70+ per litre gas!

Fuel more like 1.92 here, we are putting $6-650 a month of fuel into the Jeep, more in the summer. Fuel prices also not going to come down for the foreseeable future.

I can’t make your argument make sense anymore. We have kicked the can down the road on this thing for 12-18 months and it just keeps kicking me in the rear. We just spent $1000 on front axle seals (for the third time) like eight or nine months ago. I’ve spent about 10 hours doing rockers in the last few months and now this oil situation. $1500 just to fix that, or roughly 4k with a trans rebuild in which case we need to keep it at least another 3-4 years for that to make sense. Then in that case it needs a set of $1600+ tires in 12-18 months. And this is all assuming nothing else breaks.

If a new vehicle averages 30% less fuel consumption (which is a conservative estimate) then my math is correct. The Jeep currently averages about 13.5-14 L/100km and has for many years. Something like a Forester should average around 9.

In any event we will have it at least another 3-4 months I would imagine since it will take that long probably to get a car.
 
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I used to be in the ‘dump it and move on camp’, but with pricing and stock in the current market, fix it and drive it for a while longer.
You won’t save as much in gas as you think; and how much you will have to pay for a newer vehicle, you can buy a lot of $1.70+ per litre gas!
I find that I have spent a lot of money in the last 6 months that I owned a vehicle and then decided to sell it. And wish I had not spent the money. I agree that maintaining a vehicle is the best way to go but if the engine or transmission is on its way out it might be time to dump the car before it goes. I have no problems trading in a vehicle that I know has a major problem and let the dealer determine what it's worth. Going to auction anyway.
 
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OP I certainly understand your situation. If I owned a vehicle with all those problems I would be extremely unhappy and unload it ASAP. The most expensive repair I have ever had on a vehicle is a harmonic balancer on my 2005 Corvette which cost about $1400.00 with a front end re-alignment. I have been extremely lucky and have not had any vehicle that needed extensive repairs. No engines have been cracked open and I have never replaced or repaired a transmission. I had one rear end go out on a 340 Cuda however it was my own fault because I was young and beat it like a rented mule. 66 years of driving and knocking on wood to continue with good luck. I would unload that Jeep if you feel the need.
 
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If fuel mileage isn’t a concern, the Toyota 4Runner will serve your wife well. The TRD models have rear locking differentials.

They just need better tires unless you spend another 15k for the TRD Pro model which has a few exterior upgrades and Nitto Grappler AT’s.
 

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About 90% sure we are going to put a deposit down on a Forester in the new Cascade Green.

We are both bittersweet about it. We both like the Jeep, what we have done with it and what it offers. We’re just tired of dealing with issues. My wife takes it up logging roads almost every weekend and I am starting to get really concerned about her getting stranded out there somewhere.

I’m probably just trying to justify it but subtracting conservative fuel savings and a conservative trade in value the money out of pocket over four years is $12k, not including any additional repairs the Jeep would need. 3k a year maximum seems like chump change for much more peace of mind, more safety and comfort, etc etc. The off road ability doesn’t hold a candle to the Jeep but we don’t really wheel like we used to anymore and a lot of the time if there is a large washout or something like that she’s not going to attempt it in the Jeep with no other vehicles around anyway.

Really the perfect solution is for her to have two vehicles but unfortunately living in the city, and a place where you need to carry full insurance on all vehicles you own (even though you can only drive one at a time) makes that a non-starter.

I already started researching oil changes on the Forester lol. I wonder if a mityvac works because with the top filter mount that would be a heck of an easy oil change…
 
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My 08 WK was wonderful to drive in and was fun off road in even in 2wd form. but it started having repeated odd quirks after 4-5 years. No codes, no info on the forums, sold it. Came back a few years later and more folks were having the same problems. i really like the looks of the WK2, but I don’t think I could try it after that experience. My old ZJ, however? Loved that one.
 
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