I Never Use AutoRX or Any Such Stuff

[George7941]

My engines have always been sparkling clean inside because I change the oil every 3k to 4k miles. Unless there was some problem like a coolant leak, there really should be no need to rinse out the engine internals if oil changes are kept up with.

If you have a known sludge monster, like some Toyota engines, I think it only makes sense to have shorter OCI.

As far as being green is concerned, 100% of my used oil gets recycled. I take it to my municipal recycling depot. The engine rinses must use some harsh chemicals that are probably not very environmentally friendly.

 

[addyguy]

Oh no, don't dis Auto-Rx here, or compare it to a 'solvent flush'...Frank will grab 2 bottles, do some crazy Karate-style moves, and before you know it, you'll be mumbling "Auto-Rx is great for cleaning the rings slowly while you drive...must do a 2-bottle treatment...can't believe I lived without this stuff..."

 

[SuperDave456]

My car worked just peachy keen with almost 130,000 miles on it, before I heard of Auto RX. I have taken exceptional care of my 02 Ford Taurus.

Then I found this forum and started reading. And I wondered "I wonder what will happen to my car if I use this stuff."

I am almost through my first clean cycle and very impressed with the product. My friends and family think I am crazy because they all think "all it will do is tear stuff up". But the results I have had been tangible.

I am sure that there are Taxi drivers who can go 500k miles on nothing but cheap gas and conventional oil. To each his own.

 

[ToyotaNSaturn]

If you want to not use Auto-Rx, then don't.

I chose to do so, I've seen the benefits 1st hand, better idling & cleaned-up rings to name two.

Shorter OCI's on the Toyota Sludgey's don't help too much. I ran M1 3,300 miles on our old 99 Sienna and it was shot.

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Unless there was some problem like a coolant leak, there really should be no need to rinse out the engine internals if oil changes are kept up with.


Are you saying seals couldn't benefit from Auto-Rx?

 

[Steve S]

I would agree But A/RX does some real good things . I have used it. And still do.

 

[Jim 5]

Originally Posted By: George7941
My engines have always been sparkling clean inside because I change the oil every 3k to 4k miles. Unless there was some problem like a coolant leak, there really should be no need to rinse out the engine internals if oil changes are kept up with.



Cleaning in piston ring grooves. Probably the most shocking effect of ARX to me is the increased in compression numbers pre/post ARX. If your engine has close to factory spec compression numbers across all cylinders, then I'd agree you don't need it. If things are less than perfect, there's an excellent reason to use it.

 

[hate2work]

Originally Posted By: ToyotaNSaturn
I ran M1 3,300 miles on our old 99 Sienna and it was shot.


So ARX couldn't help this engine?

That nasty M1, don't you just hate it?

 

[c3po]

Originally Posted By: George7941
My engines have always been sparkling clean inside because I change the oil every 3k to 4k miles. Unless there was some problem like a coolant leak, there really should be no need to rinse out the engine internals if oil changes are kept up with.

If you have a known sludge monster, like some Toyota engines, I think it only makes sense to have shorter OCI.

As far as being green is concerned, 100% of my used oil gets recycled. I take it to my municipal recycling depot. The engine rinses must use some harsh chemicals that are probably not very environmentally friendly.


Is the point of your post to tell everyone that they should not use Auto-Rx because you do not use it.

Are you willing to take your engine apart and show us pictures of how clean everything is, until we see pictures I am not sold that your engine is SPARKLING clean.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: c3po
Originally Posted By: George7941
My engines have always been sparkling clean inside because I change the oil every 3k to 4k miles. Unless there was some problem like a coolant leak, there really should be no need to rinse out the engine internals if oil changes are kept up with.

If you have a known sludge monster, like some Toyota engines, I think it only makes sense to have shorter OCI.

As far as being green is concerned, 100% of my used oil gets recycled. I take it to my municipal recycling depot. The engine rinses must use some harsh chemicals that are probably not very environmentally friendly.


Is the point of your post to tell everyone that they should not use Auto-Rx because you do not use it.

Are you willing to take your engine apart and show us pictures of how clean everything is, until we see pictures I am not sold that your engine is SPARKLING clean.


Mine is. Pictures have been posted numerous times. To each their own.

 

[c3po]

George7941 made the post, so lets see pictures of his engine.

I already saw OVERK1LL's pictures, and they were very good, now lets see George7941's pictures.

 

[chevrofreak]

The piston ring cleaning is Auto RX's best feature, IMO. Millions of cars are driving around getting [censored] fuel mileage, burning oil, and contaminating their oil with fuel because their rings aren't working right. Cleaning the rings out in my car made a big difference in how it runs, and how much fuel I use.

 

[Donald]

Originally Posted By: George7941
My engines have always been sparkling clean inside because I change the oil every 3k to 4k miles. Unless there was some problem like a coolant leak, there really should be no need to rinse out the engine internals if oil changes are kept up with.

If you have a known sludge monster, like some Toyota engines, I think it only makes sense to have shorter OCI.

As far as being green is concerned, 100% of my used oil gets recycled. I take it to my municipal recycling depot. The engine rinses must use some harsh chemicals that are probably not very environmentally friendly.


If you have a high mileage engine (over 100K) and the compression is not to factory specs, then why not try Auto-Rx. You may not have any sludge in the engine but might have some crud in the ring packs which Auto-Rx will eleminate.

If you try Auto-Rx and it does nothing then you can get your money back, what have you go to loose?

 

[BearZDefect]

In my experience, after application of auto-rx in high mileage engines there was no noticeable improvement in performance. These were decently maintained engines, so they didn't burn oil or fail to get the rated mpg in the first place.

So, maybe it did clean the piston rings, but I saw no real life result.

While auto-rx is in the crankcase it does seem to improve mpg very slightly.

Based on my experience, on a well maintained engine or transmission, the saving grace would be that auto-rx extends the useful life of the seals. This alone could be worth it, I vote for this as the "best feature" as chevrofreak put it.

YMMV. There are enough stories of outstanding results using auto-rx here on BITOG.

 

[moribundman]

Originally Posted By: c3po
Are you willing to take your engine apart and show us pictures of how clean everything is, until we see pictures I am not sold that your engine is SPARKLING clean.


Is that the concept of the reversed burden of proof?

Some people are just too happy to propagate a solution in search of a problem.

PS: Some people here may "accidentally" refer to the wrong pictures when talking about someone's engine. "Mistakes" happen, you know. I know it happened to me. Need a link?

 

[moribundman]

Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
The piston ring cleaning is Auto RX's best feature, IMO.


Conveniently, it's also the most invisible, most difficult to visually show, cleaning procedure.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: moribundman
Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
The piston ring cleaning is Auto RX's best feature, IMO.


Conveniently, it's also the most invisible, most difficult to visually show, cleaning procedure.

And then there is mori. Astute and to the point, as always

 

[panthermike]

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: moribundman
Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
The piston ring cleaning is Auto RX's best feature, IMO.


Conveniently, it's also the most invisible, most difficult to visually show, cleaning procedure.

And then there is mori. Astute and to the point, as always

Yep, there's Mori

To the OP, glad you have a clean engine buddy

 

[chevrofreak]

Originally Posted By: moribundman
Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
The piston ring cleaning is Auto RX's best feature, IMO.


Conveniently, it's also the most invisible, most difficult to visually show, cleaning procedure.

Conveniently, I rely on mathematics rather than pictures to know that my piston rings are cleaner.

 

[moribundman]

Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
Conveniently, I rely on mathematics rather than pictures to know that my piston rings are cleaner.


A picture speaks a thousand words. (If it's the correct picture!)

 

[StevieC]

Originally Posted By: moribundman
[A picture speaks a thousand words. (If it's the correct picture!)