I would like to say I am sorry if I have offended some of you with some of my comments. I just as you have opinions on stuff and sometimes my bias may show. I enjoy this site and get a lot of good information from this site. My feelings on Fram are still the same but I respect your posts otherwise. It is kind of like oil and gas additives....most dont like any of them others like a few...but just because one person likes one that you dont there is no reason to bash that person. Comments like I feel the difference dont prove nothing to me or putting a adbv in the freezer or burning one really dont prove nothing to me....BUT that is me and not the rest on this site. Again I am sorry for some of my comments or lack of one and I will do better in the future. I want to be part of this site and at 67 years old might even be able to add my 2 cents to the site too. Again I hope that you accept my apology....