HPL Euro vs Premium Plus?

[Klutch9]

I looked but couldn’t really find an answer. And I’m sure HPL is closed for the holiday so… what’s the main difference between HPL’s Euro and Premium Plus offerings? Specifically in the 0w-20 flavor. They are very close in price. I know the additive packs will be different to suit different target specs, but what about the base oils? Basically I’m just trying to determine if it’s a lateral move between the two, additives aside.

 

[Astro_Guy]

If you compare properties in the SDS you will see that Premium Plus has a slightly lower pour point and a slightly higher HTHS viscosity.

 

[GW.]

A former member posted this. It has always helped me figure out the different HPL formulas.

 

[zfasts03]

I wonder what formula Amsoil Signature Series uses and what HPL line is most similar?

By looking at cold flow info. I am under the inclination that Amsoil Signature Series falls right between HPL PPCMO and their PPPCMO.

 

[GW.]

I wonder what formula Amsoil Signature Series uses and what HPL line is most similar?

By looking at cold flow info. I am under the inclination that Amsoil Signature Series falls right between HPL PPCMO and their PPPCMO.

IMO you’re correct.

We know very little but this is what we do know. SS virgin oxidation indicates a good amount of Group 5 esters. They top treat what looks like a Dexos add pack like HPL does for their first three tiers(non euro). Below is the most we get from Amsoil.

“AMSOIL INC. works closely with major additive companies to select the top-performing, and usually most expensive, passenger car and heavy-duty diesel motor oil additives. These additives have already passed all of the API licensing requirements in a petroleum- or synthetic-based formulation. Then, AMSOIL works with the additive company to maximize the amount of additive used and to boost the additive package in selected performance areas to achieve an optimum performing additive package for the intended application. This is unlike many other oil companies that, because additives are expensive, use the minimum amount of the least expensive additives required to meet the minimum API requirements.

AMSOIL then uses a combination of synthetic base stocks with known performance characteristics as replacements for the petroleum base stocks to optimize performance in areas of lubricity, volatility, viscosity index, oxidation and nitration resistance, pour point, flash point, deposit control, soot handling, emissions and many other areas as well. AMSOIL also uses a high-quality V.I. improver with outstanding viscosity and cleanliness properties. This replaces the inexpensive, low-quality V.I. improver used in standard API-licensed petroleum formulas. AMSOIL does laboratory bench tests and runs field tests to verify the superiority of the synthetic formula. AMSOIL continues to monitor the performance of the oil through close scrutiny of tens of thousands of oil analysis tests per year across a wide variety of vehicles all around North America and the world. AMSOIL INC. has been collecting used synthetic oil samples from passenger cars since 1982. No other oil company has such a vast database of the performance of synthetic lubricants over extended drain intervals. AMSOIL products and formulations outperform API-licensed oils because they are engineered for top performance from the very beginning.”

 

[rstsco]

A former member posted this. It has always helped me figure out the different HPL formulas.

What??? HPL Premium Plus Passenger Car Motor Oil doesn't use mPAO? My engine's going to be ruined!

Oh, the humanity (as the turkeys start dropping from the helicopter ("I thought they could fly"))!

 

[4wd]

Oh, the humanity (as the turkeys start dropping from the helicopter ("I thought they could fly"))!

 

[tired]

I wonder what formula Amsoil Signature Series uses and what HPL line is most similar?

By looking at cold flow info. I am under the inclination that Amsoil Signature Series falls right between HPL PPCMO and their PPPCMO.

I have wondered this too.

Makes it seem like AMSOIL Signature Series is a real bargain then.

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

A former member posted this. It has always helped me figure out the different HPL formulas.

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Must have been RodKnock?

@RDY4WAR is a great resource, and we also have @HPL Plant Manager and @High Performance Lubricants ready to give legitimate, safe recommendations for any usage profile. Just reach out to them then place your order!

 

[GW.]

Must have been RodKnock?

Maybe. Says “deleted member”

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

Maybe. Says “deleted member”

I miss his wit and insightful posts.