Originally Posted By: Hitzy
Just throwing it out there, but what about the super fine moly used to tumble coat bullets for reloading?
How to add Moly ??
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I had a conversation yesterday with a tech person at Rosmill Industries who sells Moly about tumbling bullets and we chatted about adding Moly to engine oil. He said different companies use varying amounts, and mentioned Redline as being one that uses a lot more compared to other companies. This guy seemed to know cars, engines, and oils. We had a nice chat. He adds 1 tablespoon to a 7 qt sump in his car.
Anyway here is what he had to say on this topic: According to Rosemill it would work if added to engine oil. A small amount can be blended into the oil with a high speed mixer, the suggested amount is about 1 teaspoon to 1 tablespoon depending on sump size and how much you want to add.
I also asked about Tungsten Disulfide, he said it was better for high heat applications than Moly, but Moly is lighter in weight and stays in suspension better, and is also cheaper, and more widely used. But both products would work.
The trick to adding it is use of a high speed mixer/blender. Pour off a small amount of oil and blend it so it forms a vortex, and add the Moly, blending it into the oil.
He said their super fine Moly would not get trapped in the filter if properly blended into the oil. Just thought I'd toss that out there for anyone who is interested.
So there are definately benefits of adding Moly additves such as the Lubro Moly ? Its seems to be the additive that wont go away, first it was like the 2nd Coming, then went way again, talked down, but is it making a comeback, or have these people just not posted yet ? Would adding in interfere with the engine oils performance ? eg. anti wear etc Zinc.
Remember I spoke with a company that produces and sells the stuff, so it could be said they're bias toward the product. What I found impressive was this man I spoke with was really into cars, oils etc, and knew what he was talking about.
What impressed me was he mentioned Mobil 1 and Redline, and said there were different schools of thought on just how much to use. He stated that Redline really loads their oils up with it, and it did have added benefits in his opinion. He could have just as easily pushed WS2 aka Tungsten disulfide which costs a lot more, but felt Moly was better because it was lighter and that's why its added to engine oil.
Like anything else, opinions vary, and many people feel the oil companies got it right. He said used in the 1 teaspoon - 1 table spoon amount it wouldn't harm or off balance the oil in anyway, and would enhance it. As with anything too much is never a good thing.
Lubromoly would be close to this i think as its suspended in a mineral oil. Like with any additive you always worry about its effect on the oil. Bearings is one of the main areas u seek to protect with Moly, at the same time doesn't it attack the copper liners/components in the engine ? I've used Moly additive before, even have a can on Lubro Moly sitting on the shelf somewhere, but stopped using it after reading a lil on here, instead going for oils that already contained some.
All in all, Moly and Boron have the best anti-wear additive theory behind them that makes you just wanna use the stuff.
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In Australia $14.95 a can.
Originally Posted By: vxcalais
Lubromoly would be close to this i think as its suspended in a mineral oil. Like with any additive you always worry about its effect on the oil. Bearings is one of the main areas u seek to protect with Moly, at the same time doesn't it attack the copper liners/components in the engine ? I've used Moly additive before, even have a can on Lubro Moly sitting on the shelf somewhere, but stopped using it after reading a lil on here, instead going for oils that already contained some.
All in all, Moly and Boron have the best anti-wear additive theory behind them that makes you just wanna use the stuff.
THe Tungsten would behave differently wouldnt it and needed in greater quantities in the oil ?
He stated the Tungsten Disulfide would be used the same way and in the same quantities as the Moly. However it is heavier and might settle out of supsension where as the Moly was the better choice. TD holds up to heat and pressure better than Moly, and is a better lube. But in automotive applications Moly was the better choice, because it is lighter stays in suspension better, and will handle automotive heat just fine. Tungsten Disulfide was the better choice for coating bullets, which was what I bought it for anyway.
I guess the automotive industry knew or they'd be using more TD in oils, than Moly.
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Originally Posted By: beanoil
Lubro Moly. Been using it for years. I add it to RTS 5-40 in my F250's 5.4 Triton. Available by order at any NAPA, or this link..http://www.worldimpex.com/parts/lubromoly-motor-oil-treatment_60872.html
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Originally Posted By: daman
Originally Posted By: beanoil
Lubro Moly. Been using it for years. I add it to RTS 5-40 in my F250's 5.4 Triton. Available by order at any NAPA, or this link..http://www.worldimpex.com/parts/lubromoly-motor-oil-treatment_60872.html
Yours is Lubro, in Oz ours is Liqui, exact same bottles though..........
I thought there already was a long discussion of MoS2, and the oil chemist from one of the big companies said they tried it but it's no good. Is there any actual evidence this stuff actually does anything?
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