How often do fires happen to ICE vehicles, vs Ev's?
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This was not the traction battery catching fire. Look at the pictures, no damage where the traction battery is.
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It’s hard to believe but we had a Tesla burn up on the highway north of Cranbrook, our local city. I’m thinking there are hardly any Tesla’s here I
in the first place.
in the first place.
Numerically there are many more ice fires than EV, there was a fires per mile metric thrown around at one point but I’m not seeing it.
I vaguely recall the F-series (ICE) alone is in the 10’s of thousands but not every fire is catestrophic.
My own relatively short street has had 2 gas car fires one was a minivan, don’t remember the other
I vaguely recall the F-series (ICE) alone is in the 10’s of thousands but not every fire is catestrophic.
My own relatively short street has had 2 gas car fires one was a minivan, don’t remember the other
I know Hyundai/Kia ICE are more prone then most to start fires. The corrosion problem in the ABS pump comes to mind. I have sprayed mine with Fluid Film to reduce infiltration of moisture into the pump/electronics area of the pump.
in my 45 years i've seen exactly 2 vehicle fires.
one an older Cadillac in the parking lot at work,
the other a pickup of some sort along the side of 270 on the north side of Columbus, just west of 315. roughly 2004. I was on my way to my 3rd shift retail job.
big bright fire, right in the middle of the truck, you know...right where the gas tank lives... fun times.
one an older Cadillac in the parking lot at work,
the other a pickup of some sort along the side of 270 on the north side of Columbus, just west of 315. roughly 2004. I was on my way to my 3rd shift retail job.
big bright fire, right in the middle of the truck, you know...right where the gas tank lives... fun times.
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A realistic comparison would only include model years since EVs became a real product. No idea when that would be. ICE fires never make the news unless spectacular. EV fires always do. Might be surprised.
ICE fires happen more often because there's more ICE vehicles out and about. It's not really apples to oranges to compare the number of fires; the issue is the severity. I've been lucky enough to not have to fight any EV fires yet but I did take an Electric Vehicle Firefighting class and it is a real eye opener. They are nearly impossible to put out.
Cruise switch on the master cylinder....Brake fluid pressure switches have always been problematic.
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True. So it can't be the raw number of ICE fires vs EV fires, something like number of fires per 1,000 cars sold from 2018 to 2023 or whatever. Or expressed as a percentage, like 0.1% of EVs sold in 2022 caught fire vs 0.08% of ICE (or whatever). The data is out there somewhere.
Fires in conventional vehicles are not terribly difficult to extinguish.
EV fires can be extremely difficult to extinguish-- electric vehicle containment units are starting to hit the market, so hopefully that will help. But the difficulty of extinguishing these fires is a serious concern.
EV fires can be extremely difficult to extinguish-- electric vehicle containment units are starting to hit the market, so hopefully that will help. But the difficulty of extinguishing these fires is a serious concern.
Agree starting around 2023?
Gas vs Electric same model years for each and percent of those fires for vehicles sold
I have FULL faith by 2028 we will have solid data
as more models hit the road
On the Theta II 2.4 GDI like I had in my 2012 Sonata there was an issue with the HPFP leaking after being serviced (cough engine replaced) and causing engine fires. Hyundai put out updated procedures for the service techs eventually.
Vehicle crash today in SE Michigan a Tesla was hit and burst in to flames 3 people dead. Fire dept is helpless to put them out, they just stand by and let it burn itself out.
Not quite correct. 1 person dead in the Tesla, two in the Nissan SUV.
https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/he...ead-leaves-unanswered-questions-after-tragedy
Teslas themselves as far as crash structures go are extremely safe for occupants. That said, if you you hit cars together head on at high speed it's probably going to bend or crush the battery and batteries don't like being crushed.
I have seen a fair number of vehicle fires given all the driving I do. They all seem to be old ICE vehicles. Likely ignited via an oil or fuel leak so probably also not maintained.
Things catch on fire, that’s just the nature of things. The problem with EV’s is it’s almost impossible for the fire department to put them out. That’s the big public hazard IMHO. Vs an ICE the can put out and push off the road pretty quickly.
Things catch on fire, that’s just the nature of things. The problem with EV’s is it’s almost impossible for the fire department to put them out. That’s the big public hazard IMHO. Vs an ICE the can put out and push off the road pretty quickly.