How much a 2nd job takes out of you

[sciphi]

I have a weekend job that has nothing to do with my day job. It's for fun, and to give the wife some study time since she's back in school. Had it about a year now. The money's all right, and my co-workers are a fun bunch. They're also willing to work around my schedule, and I reciprocate by letting them know of changes well in advance.

Above all else, they must be willing to work around your schedule. Being called in to your second job when still at your day job isn't good.

 

[99Saturn]

I worked 2 plus jobs at various times while I was going to college and grad school school. Definitely fun at times but also exhausting.

Best advice I could give would be to prioritize your days and what you really need to get done in your life in addition to work. It is good financially, put me in a much better position for the future, and gives you a sense of real value when you have time off.

 

[Mykl]

I don't even like working 50 hours a week. I'd do what I had to do if it came down to it, but if I have my way I'll never work more than 45 hours a week for the rest of my life.

 

[SteveSRT8]

Originally Posted By: TechnoLoGs
Decided I am going to go to the McDonalds (my strong point) and tell them I now work at a Dunkin Donuts and can be of great use to them particularly the one that says they are now hiring for part-time!

So, how much does working a 2nd job take out of you? I did so once wen i was 23...

Let's discuss!


I was a single Father with three kids 8, 10, and 12. Did I have more than one job? Of course I did! I had up to three irons in that fire. It was a busy time for a decade or so, I survived and my 3 kids are grown and extremely independent.

I wouldn't want to do it now, but I could if I had to. Experience has shown me that if the motivation is there you can do almost anything...

 

[Pop_Rivit]

Originally Posted By: TechnoLoGs

So, how much does working a 2nd job take out of you? I did so once wen i was 23...

Let's discuss!


Me:
Job #1: I'm part owner of a winery.
Job #2: My wife and I have a cemetery mapping business.
Until the first of this year there was also Job #3: Doing the BA consulting and QA work for the software company I sold a few years ago.
After the first Tuesday in November I may have a new job #3: Political office.

My wife:
Job #1: She went of counsel at the end of last year-she still puts in 15-20 hours a week.
Job #2: She sits on the board of directors for a local company.
Job #3: She works in our cemetery mapping business.

We also have two therapy dogs and spend quite a bit of time doing volunteer work with them (probably 8 hours a week). We also do some non-therapy dog related volunteer work.

We still manage to find plenty of time to do things together, and we also have our separate hobbies (I enjoy auctions). We also have an acreage to tend to, and I'm often out in the shop working on something. We both work at keeping ourselves physically fit, so we spend an hour or so each morning walking/jogging, we often ride the bike trails around the area, and in the winter we snow shoe the bike trails. We also have a lake home where we spend some time.

The difference is we both do things we love to do-neither of us considers what we do "work". I couldn't imagine not staying busy; I'd get bored with a mundane existence. We don't waste time plopped down in front of a television, nor do we waste time going to movies.

But then I'm only 69, maybe when I get older I'll slow down as much as some of the 30, 40 and 50 year old folks.

 

[eljefino]

Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit

After the first Tuesday in November I may have a new job #3: Political office.



attaboy!

 

[Papa Bear]

Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit

After the first Tuesday in November I may have a new job #3: Political office.




That's not a job .... that's a position.

 

[wander2039]

I worked 2 jobs back in 06-07 and 02-03. The 06-07 was one full time job and another that was 30+ hours a week. Sometimes pulled 80 hours a week. The wife did the same. Would never repeat the experience but we did pay off 60-75k in debt in one year. If my boy didn't come early in April vs August we would of been debt free.. which in it's self was a god send. Dealing with a 24 week preemie would bankrupted us with all that debt. My 2 jobs were in security which depending on the location really isn't hard to do.

I'm going to tell my boys to work part-time if they but don't if they can't enjoy life. I should of worked 2 jobs for years when I was single.. I'd be alot better off retirement wise. Due to my boys, even though we could use the money, I won't work a second. The boys childhood is short and I don't want to miss it... I can do without a few things.

 

[antiqueshell]

Originally Posted By: Mykl
I don't even like working 50 hours a week. I'd do what I had to do if it came down to it, but if I have my way I'll never work more than 45 hours a week for the rest of my life.


Good observation. I certainly agree.

Can you imagine having this thread or talking about two jobs say even 30 years ago? Not likely.

You only live once and there are only so many hours in the day.

I think the powers that be love having the worker bees slaving away at work 12 hours a day or more so that they have no real time to ponder ANYTHING else.

People are too tired or exhausted to confront deeper issues.

 

[Pop_Rivit]

Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
Originally Posted By: Mykl
I don't even like working 50 hours a week. I'd do what I had to do if it came down to it, but if I have my way I'll never work more than 45 hours a week for the rest of my life.


Good observation. I certainly agree.

Can you imagine having this thread or talking about two jobs say even 30 years ago? Not likely.

You only live once and there are only so many hours in the day.

I think the powers that be love having the worker bees slaving away at work 12 hours a day or more so that they have no real time to ponder ANYTHING else.

People are too tired or exhausted to confront deeper issues.


It certainly makes you wonder why the worker bees don't take responsibility for themselves and improve their situation; instead they continue to slave away and do nothing more than whine about "the powers that be".

 

[JHZR2]

Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
Originally Posted By: Mykl
I don't even like working 50 hours a week. I'd do what I had to do if it came down to it, but if I have my way I'll never work more than 45 hours a week for the rest of my life.


Good observation. I certainly agree.

Can you imagine having this thread or talking about two jobs say even 30 years ago? Not likely.

You only live once and there are only so many hours in the day.

I think the powers that be love having the worker bees slaving away at work 12 hours a day or more so that they have no real time to ponder ANYTHING else.

People are too tired or exhausted to confront deeper issues.


It certainly makes you wonder why the worker bees don't take responsibility for themselves and improve their situation; instead they continue to slave away and do nothing more than whine about "the powers that be".


Because the "powers that be" are awful happy sending those jobs to China, and the masses are more than willing to spend their remnants of money on Chinesium products - putting their felow countrymen out of jobs.

 

[Benzadmiral]

I did two jobs from 1988 to 1997: a main weekday office job -- actually I changed positions three times in that period, making more money each time -- and a part-time weekend job as announcer/producer at a local radio station. From 1989 to 1994 I also went to school at night. Generally I did one course a semester, but also for several years of that period I took a summer class too, so that I could graduate with my bachelor's . . . which led to the best-paying of the three full-time jobs. (And eventually to my moving to Colorado, but that's a story for yet another day.)

Yes, I prioritized. I dated, I took care of my car and my cat, and fortunately I was healthy all during that period. Once I moved to CO I promised myself I'd never do two jobs again. There've been times in the last 11 years when I've thought about going back with the radio station; my former boss, now the owner, would love to have me. But I don't seem to have the energy for it.

 

[surfstar]

I have a poor work ethic, but an incredible play ethic.

No one says on their deathbed "I wish I worked more"

 

[Mykl]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2

Because the "powers that be" are awful happy sending those jobs to China, and the masses are more than willing to spend their remnants of money on Chinesium products - putting their felow countrymen out of jobs.


I think you're being dramatic, outsourcing jobs goes both ways. Other countries send jobs to the United States. It's not the great evil some make it out to be.

It's a win/win situation. If outsourcing saves us money that frees up resources to be used elsewhere, and if China can build gold-plated-widgets more efficiently than we can then why shouldn't we do it? Everybody profits, everybody wins.

 

[IndyIan]

Originally Posted By: Mykl
Originally Posted By: JHZR2

Because the "powers that be" are awful happy sending those jobs to China, and the masses are more than willing to spend their remnants of money on Chinesium products - putting their felow countrymen out of jobs.


I think you're being dramatic, outsourcing jobs goes both ways. Other countries send jobs to the United States. It's not the great evil some make it out to be.

It's a win/win situation. If outsourcing saves us money that frees up resources to be used elsewhere, and if China can build gold-plated-widgets more efficiently than we can then why shouldn't we do it? Everybody profits, everybody wins.

Except not everybody profits... Income distribution inequality is increasing here, $20+/hr manufacturing jobs are flushing to China/India at a huge rate, where some poor sap makes a tiny fraction of that, the company obtains our intellectual property, and we buy the product back at a minor savings... Why politicians are acting in the best interests of huge corporations and not the average man is a mystery to me. I guess we just allow them to do it, so they do.

 

[Mykl]

Originally Posted By: IndyIan

Except not everybody profits... Income distribution inequality is increasing here, $20+/hr manufacturing jobs are flushing to China/India at a huge rate, where some poor sap makes a tiny fraction of that, the company obtains our intellectual property, and we buy the product back at a minor savings... Why politicians are acting in the best interests of huge corporations and not the average man is a mystery to me. I guess we just allow them to do it, so they do.


So your solution is to shut off trade? Nothing comes in or goes out? No jobs can be received or sent?

In what's supposed to be a free country how do politicians prevent private entities from investing in foreign countries? Why would a politician want to prevent foreign entities from investing in our own country?

 

[IndyIan]

Originally Posted By: Mykl
Originally Posted By: IndyIan

Except not everybody profits... Income distribution inequality is increasing here, $20+/hr manufacturing jobs are flushing to China/India at a huge rate, where some poor sap makes a tiny fraction of that, the company obtains our intellectual property, and we buy the product back at a minor savings... Why politicians are acting in the best interests of huge corporations and not the average man is a mystery to me. I guess we just allow them to do it, so they do.


So your solution is to shut off trade? Nothing comes in or goes out? No jobs can be received or sent?

In what's supposed to be a free country how do politicians prevent private entities from investing in foreign countries? Why would a politician want to prevent foreign entities from investing in our own country?

I'm not an economist, but I don't see what benefit we have gotten as a whole society from allowing huge trade deficits from countries with slave wages, and little environmental regulation? Some people have gotten very rich, and now we can buy a $8 toaster... But for the average joe, he'd rather make a decent wage, and pay a reasonable amount for his goods that employs his neighbors, rather than taking a minimum wage job and having to buy imported junk at walmart.
Some conditions for trade would help our people stay employed while requiring imported goods to be made on a semi level playing field.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: IndyIan
Originally Posted By: Mykl
Originally Posted By: IndyIan

Except not everybody profits... Income distribution inequality is increasing here, $20+/hr manufacturing jobs are flushing to China/India at a huge rate, where some poor sap makes a tiny fraction of that, the company obtains our intellectual property, and we buy the product back at a minor savings... Why politicians are acting in the best interests of huge corporations and not the average man is a mystery to me. I guess we just allow them to do it, so they do.


So your solution is to shut off trade? Nothing comes in or goes out? No jobs can be received or sent?

In what's supposed to be a free country how do politicians prevent private entities from investing in foreign countries? Why would a politician want to prevent foreign entities from investing in our own country?

I'm not an economist, but I don't see what benefit we have gotten as a whole society from allowing huge trade deficits from countries with slave wages, and little environmental regulation? Some people have gotten very rich, and now we can buy a $8 toaster... But for the average joe, he'd rather make a decent wage, and pay a reasonable amount for his goods that employs his neighbors, rather than taking a minimum wage job and having to buy imported junk at walmart.
Some conditions for trade would help our people stay employed while requiring imported goods to be made on a semi level playing field.


Bingo.

Hence the massive trade tariffs with currency-devaluing nations that practice dumping like China in Europe. Somebody has to put the brakes on this Gong Show. The jobs that have been sent to China were part of the backbone of our economy. Now those people are collecting EI, Welfare or are homeless and have turned to crime. Hooray for outsourcing!

 

[antiqueshell]

Originally Posted By: IndyIan
Except not everybody profits... Income distribution inequality is increasing here, $20+/hr manufacturing jobs are flushing to China/India at a huge rate, where some poor sap makes a tiny fraction of that, the company obtains our intellectual property, and we buy the product back at a minor savings... Why politicians are acting in the best interests of huge corporations and not the average man is a mystery to me. I guess we just allow them to do it, so they do.


Quote:

I'm not an economist, but I don't see what benefit we have gotten as a whole society from allowing huge trade deficits from countries with slave wages, and little environmental regulation? Some people have gotten very rich, and now we can buy a $8 toaster... But for the average joe, he'd rather make a decent wage, and pay a reasonable amount for his goods that employs his neighbors, rather than taking a minimum wage job and having to buy imported junk at walmart.
Some conditions for trade would help our people stay employed while requiring imported goods to be made on a semi level playing field.



Thank You CANADA!

Leave to a couple of Canadians to clearly spell out how
our two developed western nations...the US and Canada have become decimated by allowing so called "free trade" to become legal.

Free Trade my hiney.


And in the USA, these agreements actually VIOLATE our Constitution, since NO body outside of our nation can make regulations or laws regarding trade that affects the US.

So in the US we can add that the so called gov't is guilty of high treason, and tyranny. That is a legal fact according to Constitutional Law.

 

[Shannow]

Originally Posted By: IndyIan
I'm not an economist, but I don't see what benefit we have gotten as a whole society from allowing huge trade deficits from countries with slave wages, and little environmental regulation? Some people have gotten very rich, and now we can buy a $8 toaster... But for the average joe, he'd rather make a decent wage, and pay a reasonable amount for his goods that employs his neighbors, rather than taking a minimum wage job and having to buy imported junk at walmart.
Some conditions for trade would help our people stay employed while requiring imported goods to be made on a semi level playing field.


It's funny how for decades the US (and note, I'm in conversation, not directing anything at you/your post) were happy to take over Australian icons, like vegemite, 4 and 20 pies Victa lawnmowers (actually, Briggs pulled out of that one when they realised they would never sell another mower), our Natural gas fields, our coal and iron ore (under "free trade", we weren't allowed to make the steel, just sell the quarried materials for US jobs)...

then 20 years later, the same starts happening to the US, and it's somehow "unfair".

Oz is still a quarry, and when we run out of stuff to dig up, we are stuffed...I'd support nuclear fuel reprocessing here as an industry as no-one much seems to want to do it.