2006 Ford Expedition 5.4 Engine , how many miles before the First Oil change , I assumme Ford has Special "break-in oil" they use , thanks in advance for the info.
How Many Miles before a First Oil Change
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No special break in oil.My first oil change was at 500 miles,then went with syn. oil.
I did mine with dino/new filter at 1k miles.
This weekend I hit 3k and will switch to M1/Toyota filter.
Scott
This weekend I hit 3k and will switch to M1/Toyota filter.
Scott
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3.5K on all my new vehicles. Never had a problem. Even drove three badly rusted vehicles to the junk yard 17-21 years later. Ran fine even then. You paid x-amount of dollars for that new oil & filter. May-as-well get some of your money back out of it.
With all due respect, that oil/filter is cheap, and all the initial break-in wear happens very quickly.
I agree after that to go to a 3k OCI, but that's just me - never drove anything to the junk yard!
Scott
I agree after that to go to a 3k OCI, but that's just me - never drove anything to the junk yard!
Scott
I like to do the first oil change within 500 to 1000 miles, the next at 2500-3000, then 5000, and probably every 5000 after that. There is a chance of some breakin wear particles or manufacturing debris to get out of the engine. 3000 mile oil changes are a waste of good oil, time, and money unless you operate under very severe conditions.
I don't know if a breakin period is needed or not before switching to synthetic (and I've heard most the arguments both ways), so I run at least 5000 on conventional oil...10-15k on a diesel.
To the best of my knowledge, Honda/Acura is the only brand with a special breakin oil.
If you only keep the car for 100,000 miles or less, or if you lease and don't plan on buying, forget everything above. Follow the longest drain intervals shown in your owner's manual. If you have an Oil Life Monitor, follow that.
Ken
I don't know if a breakin period is needed or not before switching to synthetic (and I've heard most the arguments both ways), so I run at least 5000 on conventional oil...10-15k on a diesel.
To the best of my knowledge, Honda/Acura is the only brand with a special breakin oil.
If you only keep the car for 100,000 miles or less, or if you lease and don't plan on buying, forget everything above. Follow the longest drain intervals shown in your owner's manual. If you have an Oil Life Monitor, follow that.
Ken
Whenever you want. Let's compromise and say 2k miles.
3-5K.
Also, I'm sure every OEM uses some type of assembly lube during engine assembly, and the assembly gets washed into the engine oil upon initial engine startup. From what I've been told, this slight amount of assembly lube may have an effect on providing additional wear protection during break-in.
Also, I'm sure every OEM uses some type of assembly lube during engine assembly, and the assembly gets washed into the engine oil upon initial engine startup. From what I've been told, this slight amount of assembly lube may have an effect on providing additional wear protection during break-in.
What I did on my 03 Escape was to change the first time at 3,000 miles. Second oil change at 6,000 miles, Third oil change at 10,000 miles, and I have stayed on a 5,000 oil change interval ever since.
That way I started life with a slightly more agressive schedule and then tapered back to a normal schedule.
That way I started life with a slightly more agressive schedule and then tapered back to a normal schedule.
How about on a newly aquired used car? I presume the first change would be right away. But what would you use if there was no brand or oil change history available, the oil looked clean, and the car ran well?
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I still change the oil immediately, because you never know what might be in there. With the last two used cars I bought, I brought them home and immediately drained the oil before I even went inside the house!
3000 miles. Then you can start regular intervals.
Are you going to use normal or severe oil change schedule? What are those schedules for a new Expedition?
Are you going to use normal or severe oil change schedule? What are those schedules for a new Expedition?
I bought a new Toyota Tacoma Pre-Runner in 1999. It's first oil change was at 7500 miles. Each subsequent oil change was every 7500-8000 miles, at the Toyota dealer exclusively.
When I sold it in 2001, it had 45k miles on it, & was spotless under the valve cover. I was driving it almost 150 highway miles a day, so I'm sure it was easy on the oil.
When I sold it in 2001, it had 45k miles on it, & was spotless under the valve cover. I was driving it almost 150 highway miles a day, so I'm sure it was easy on the oil.
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"I still change the oil immediately, because you never know what might be in there. With the last two used cars I bought, I brought them home and immediately drained the oil before I even went inside the house! "
Very good advice. Those vehicles will get started several times in the plant, will idle for a long time during final assembly, and get started lots more times to get on an off rail cars, trucks, and around the dealers lot. Add in that your particular engine was assembled at another plant and test run and could have gone through many temperature changes during shipping to the plant, and I really feel that a change is in order when it hits the driveway. Then again at 500, and again at 3000. Then whatever you feel comfortable with after that.
"I still change the oil immediately, because you never know what might be in there. With the last two used cars I bought, I brought them home and immediately drained the oil before I even went inside the house! "
Very good advice. Those vehicles will get started several times in the plant, will idle for a long time during final assembly, and get started lots more times to get on an off rail cars, trucks, and around the dealers lot. Add in that your particular engine was assembled at another plant and test run and could have gone through many temperature changes during shipping to the plant, and I really feel that a change is in order when it hits the driveway. Then again at 500, and again at 3000. Then whatever you feel comfortable with after that.
I like to do the first drain and filter change at 2K. The second drain at 5K total miles and then get on a regular interval. I like a 5K interval as its very easy to remember when to change the oil.
Change the oil and filter anywhere from 500 to 1000. Stay with dino or go synthetic at that point.
On a new vehicle, I like to drain it before 1,000 miles. Then I like to do 2 more before 5,000.
On a used, it gets changed as soon as I get it home. Stop by the parts store on the way home and get the oil and filter.
Besides, what used vehicle doesn't need tires, brakes, oil change, air filter, trans fluid, washer fluid and coolant flushed?
On a used, it gets changed as soon as I get it home. Stop by the parts store on the way home and get the oil and filter.
Besides, what used vehicle doesn't need tires, brakes, oil change, air filter, trans fluid, washer fluid and coolant flushed?
What about the transmission and differential?
Drain engine @ 1k.
Go to 3k and change again.
Then run what the MFG states in their manual since it's THEIR engine until the warrenty runs out.
Transmission; 15-20k and every 45-60 after for Manuals.
Differential: my Chevy said 7500 miles for the first change and I did that. At 30k I did it again and will do it every 4-5 years or 45k miles.
I've had cars go well over 200k with no problems.
Take care, bill
Go to 3k and change again.
Then run what the MFG states in their manual since it's THEIR engine until the warrenty runs out.
Transmission; 15-20k and every 45-60 after for Manuals.
Differential: my Chevy said 7500 miles for the first change and I did that. At 30k I did it again and will do it every 4-5 years or 45k miles.
I've had cars go well over 200k with no problems.
Take care, bill
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