How do u estimate viscosity when mixing oils?

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Thinking of mixing redline 5W30 and 5W40 just for giggles. How do I estimate the expected kv100?

5W30 is 10.6 cst and 5W40 is 15.1 cst. So what would we expect a mix of 4 quarts 10.6 and 1 quart 15.1 cst to be?

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Wow, great links. Thanks! (Bookmarked!)

Seems like adding only 1 quart of the thicker stuff just gives you a minor bump.

A 3 to 2 ratio puts it at a low 40 weight/high 30 weight starting point which is about where many 502 oils either start at or get to very quickly.

5W30 has moly and Boron while the 5W40 is a different formula with no Moly and little Boron. Maybe it would be better to leave out the 5W40 and use 10W40 instead so that they are more similar formulas.

Those are great sites for playing with options for different "witches brews" ha ha.
 
I get close to that result with an ordinary average:

( 10.6 x 4 + 15.1 ) / 5 = 11.5


If I put in 5 quarts of 10.6 cSt I get:

( 10.6 x 5 + 15.1 ) / 6 = 11.35
 
I like using these to create mad blends.

50% Penz HM 5w30
25% Penz HM 10W40
25% PP 5W30

76.5cst@40C
12.1cst@100C
VI=155

50% PP 5W50
50% PP 5W30

69.5cst@40C
12.1cst@100C
VI=173
 
Is there any chance at all of figuring out the HTHS of a mix or would that be taking it to the point of only wild guesswork?

F.e. a mix of 3 quarts of HTHS 3.8 and 2 quarts 4.6cP (from the redline examples above)
 
Despite much reading on the subject, I have not seen any research on the HTHS viscosity of a mixture of two oils.

I think that your HTHS estimate from a mixture will be in the ballpark if you plug the HTHS viscosities into the viscosity calculators, treating them as kinematic viscosities at 100C.
 
Good idea. If I plug in numbers for 4 quarts RL 10W30 and 1 quart RL 10W40 then I get HTHS of 3.95 and kv100 11.37. So lighter than GC but a high HTHS. I would think the "with moly" additive pack of these two oils would be similar also.

It would be an interesting test in the 2.0 FSI with how hard it is on oil. Looking at that last RL 5W40 UOA, the iron levels are as flat as a pancake now so I am not sure I can learn much more on the 5W40. I am not brave enough to go all the way down to 10.7 cst (10W30) on this engine until I learn more. Maybe a 3/2 ratio or 4/1 if I'm feeling brave ha ha.
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