how do they rate a truck payload capacity

[01rangerxl]

Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
The service dept can get the info. Its foolish to think they can't. Even though both Ford forums I am on said the truck gvwr is correct and does exclude trailer weight.

I doubt the service department gets many requests to look up payload information, since it is readily available online, so I doubt they have that information on hand for a 20 year old truck. They could probably find it for you, but you could also do that yourself (I posted it in this thread earlier - from a Ford publication). You would be better off calling Ford directly, though I doubt they will help you much either.

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I honestly think you just like hearing yourself.

Might sound harsh, but I think people here get sick of dispensing good advice, just to have it thrown aside for feelings and some story about a truck somebody had one time that had 50 bajillion leaf springs on it.

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There is trucks rated to haul 3500lbs.

Sure there are, they are called 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks. As mentioned many times in this thread, they have full floating BIG axles and other driveline components that can handle it. Your truck doesn't have those features critical to carrying a large payload. If you don't believe us, try it for yourself. Please. And post pics.

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But I find it comical that both Ford forums can give educated answers and on bitog its just nope no that's wrong and instead of discussing I am going to act like an [censored] about it. Seems for some people there is a trend there.

What makes this Ford forum an expert? They are right that GVWR usually means no trailer, they are wrong that 8000 lbs. without a trailer is remotely safe with your truck.

You clearly lack an understanding about what makes a heavy duty pickup heavy duty. That's all fine and good, except that you push aside good information for feelings and stories. Like I said before, normally I wouldn't care except that this time you could hurt someone if you severely overload this truck (over 2000 lbs.).

 

[97f150]

Am I the only one thinking "it's a 20 year old truck, who gives a flip?" I just don't see where it matters what the sticker says except to show your friends. Most anything over 1000 lbs or is put on a trailer anyway.

 

[Dakota1820]

i never said i was going to over load my truck i just said i want the proper info not you running your mouth, i dont think the truck can haul 4000 in the bed even though that is what it says. but if you want to stop running your mouth for a second i am pretty sure i found the answer. the ford dealer looked it up and the sticker should read 6850. but the sticker was remade. not because of being wrecked but because the tag wore off. so the payload is about 2350 assuming the truck weighs 4500lbs which is pretty close with passengers and fuel and everything. but the trucks towing capacity is 6500lbs but he said that is only because its a manual an automatic with the same set up would be 8000. so that makes more sense. so i was right to assume gvwr was the correct meaning that i said it was but the number is misprinted. funny thing about it all is you 01rangerxl is you want argue and be a [censored] when in reality i said it a few times. the gvwr is truck and payload with no trailer. and if it is in fact really 8650 that means it can haul 4000. i did however say that is awful high which is why i was trying to find the truth. if you would quit with the nonsense you would have understood that. a thread that could have been a great discussion turned into some little crybaby match all because instead of having a decent conversation you and a couple others want to start drama that doesn't need starting. maybe from now on we could all act more grown up? just an idea!

 

[01rangerxl]

Myself and others suggested repeatedly that the number on the sticker was incorrect for GVWR, YOU were the one disputing that. Assuming the number is correct when it is clearly too high for your vehicle is idiotic, especially when given correct numbers repeatedly.

Nobody here disputed that GVWR should be listed without a trailer. You were given the definition by me at the beginning of the tread, when you were asking how payload is determined.

You are the only person whining. Everyone else is just frustrated with trying to explain very basic concepts over and over again. Why you start threads with a question, and then turn them into a [censored] match every single time is beyond me. I sometimes wonder if you are possibly a troll and just playing stupid. I hope that's the case anyway.

 

[Dakota1820]

Are you dumb? You said that gvwr meant EVERYTHING on old Ford's. When you are wrong. This is the exact reason I can't stand bitog people like you. The number could be right since there is half tons with that kind if payload. Its not common but there is trucks out there . My truck has a3/4 suspension the gearing on the sticker is wrong as well . So we misunderstood each other I guess. There's isn't a reason to call me a troll and all this other B's

 

[01rangerxl]

I suggested that MAYBE it was really GCWR because it could not be GVWR! If you had paid attention to anything presented in this thread it would have been nowhere close to 5 pages. But you chose to argue something that was blatantly incorrect (after asking for payload to be defined), and then whined when evidence was presented that the number was wrong. Luckily you did listen to the Ford dealer when they discovered the sticker was wrong, which we could not determine from the pic, but which we suggested all through this thread!

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The number could be right since there is half tons with that kind if payload.

No there aren't! No half tons can carry 3500 lbs. now, and they [censored] sure couldn't in 1992! That is the kind of idiotic misinformation that makes you look like a troll!

 

[cbear]

When you say they have 5 leafs, is it 4 plus an overload or 5 plus an overload leaf? Also are the 2.5" or 3" wide?

 

[Dakota1820]

you mean 93 right? if your going to run your mouth atleast do it correctly. like i tried to explain my dad bought a truck that had a one ton rear end with one ton suspension but the badge was still f150. whoever purchased it new ordered it special but yes it could carry that much. it also had bigger brakes ect. i dont care if you believe me or not. i know its true. iirc the salesmen said the guy that traded it in bought it and it wouldn't do the work that he needed it to do so he sent it to ford and had them put one ton stuff on it. but it was just an F-150. like i said its not common. but it can happen. being closed minded the way you are only keeps you from being properly educated.

 

[Dakota1820]

5 plus the overload and they are 3in wide

 

[01rangerxl]

Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
you mean 93 right? if your going to run your mouth atleast do it correctly. like i tried to explain my dad bought a truck that had a one ton rear end with one ton suspension but the badge was still f150. whoever purchased it new ordered it special but yes it could carry that much. it also had bigger brakes ect. i dont care if you believe me or not. i know its true. iirc the salesmen said the guy that traded it in bought it and it wouldn't do the work that he needed it to do so he sent it to ford and had them put one ton stuff on it. but it was just an F-150. like i said its not common. but it can happen. being closed minded the way you are only keeps you from being properly educated.

Your story about this truck is so bad it's funny.

So this guy sent this 1-ton F-150 off to Ford (the manufacturer), and they fitted it with 1-ton springs and axles? Do you not see how that is a completely outlandish story? If this truck was just modified by a dealer, that means it is NOT stock, and therefore IRRELEVANT to stock payload capacities.

And you believe everything a car salesman tells you about some used pickup? You do realize they will tell you anything right?

Not sure why I even responded to that story, it's so ridiculous it almost has to be trolling.

Funny you call other people uneducated when you refuse to look up anything for yourself, but want to argue with everyone who gives you information.

 

[Dakota1820]

my point is people do special order vehicles or even send them back and have what they want done. your right it doesn't matter to stock payload capacity but obviously if you have a f150 and put a 1 ton rear end and brakes under it that it'll haul more. but listen i am not going to argue with your stupid [censored]. you are the kind of person who knows everything but doesn't know a [censored] thing. i am getting sick of being called a troll. if you acted like you are to my face i would jack your jaw. because where i come from we do not tolerate smart mouths like you. now please stop commenting. i am done with the conversation with you because you have [censored] me off.

 

[01rangerxl]

Special ordering only works to an extent. You can't just special order anything you want unless you are buying a lot of them. The notion that Ford (the manufacturer) would TAKE BACK and REBUILD any truck like that is ridiculous.

You wouldn't be called a troll if you didn't act like one.

If you think "jacking my jaw" is your solution to me calling out the misinformation in your posts, you really are stupid and will probably end up charged with assault one day.

 

[exranger06]

I predict a locked thread....

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
my point is people do special order vehicles or even send them back and have what they want done. your right it doesn't matter to stock payload capacity but obviously if you have a f150 and put a 1 ton rear end and brakes under it that it'll haul more. but listen i am not going to argue with your stupid [censored]. you are the kind of person who knows everything but doesn't know a [censored] thing. i am getting sick of being called a troll. if you acted like you are to my face i would jack your jaw. because where i come from we do not tolerate smart mouths like you. now please stop commenting. i am done with the conversation with you because you have [censored] me off.


You are going to get yourself banned. I recall you speaking to me in a similar manner in a thread that got equally as heated as this one has managed to become.

Threatening physical violence indicates you've run out of ways to properly debate/defend your position. Nobody is threatening you in a similar manner, despite the fact that you are calling them "stupid [censored]" and the like.

You really need to re-evaluate your posting style on this board, and I don't mean that to be disrespectful. It is what it is. You post in a very emotional manner on pretty much every topic of which you have an opinion. This ultimately leads to you getting frustrated and saying things that really shouldn't be said to other members. This thread is no exception to that trend.

I've said this to you before, but I'm going to say it again here for the nostalgia

You tend to post questions that aren't. That is, you have an answer already in your head to the question asked and anybody who cites an opinion, even though you've clearly ASKED for opinions, that is not inline with your preconceived notion of what the correct answer IS, is obviously operating on some sort of anti-chevyboy agenda and deserved a verbal beat-down.

That IS your posting style here. And that is what needs to change.

 

[01rangerxl]

Much more eloquently stated than my posts. I should have bit my tongue a little more.

 

[JHZR2]

This is done.