How am I sposed to buy a house?

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Future shock going into high gear.

Do you remember the transition that you went through when you began to doubt Santa Claus?
 
I think that Gary is referring to the not too far away "correction", when the illusions surrounding these things suddenly gets blown away.

Some suburbs in Oz have already lost 10% in 12 months. Hasn't stopped real estate people talking it up 'though.

As to Chris' original question "How am I sposed to buy a house?"...you aren't supposed to.
 
RE Prices in my town keep going up, but that is because we are VERY close to the city (less gas $$), have a town that is hot and revitalizing, and have very few homes up for sale. Plus, Philadelphia suburbs are half to two-thirds the cost of equivalent suburbs for NYC and DC.

I'm 26, and have an advanced engineering degree. I make a good deal of money. NJ isnt cheap. What did it take? Saving. I knew from right out of college that renting is inferior to owning a home, because though I pay thousands of dollars in interest today, Ill have something that has some value, ain a town where I want to live, with my space, my privacy, my choices, and after the mortgage is paid off, Im not owing anything but my taxes... I decided that owning was right for me, and so I was disciplined to save and save. Did I give up some times eating out? going out drinking with friends? a road trip? the latest name brand stuff? yes. But in the end, at 25, I bought a home that will do well by me for a LONG time.

Within reason, discipline is what is necessary. I grew up in north NJ, and in the towns around there, $450-500k will buy you a lousy shoebox fixer upper. That said, I have friends who were careful and have bought homes about the same time. Im sure they got money from family to help out, but if that is the reality of things, then it is what it is. I'd say that the following help the most:
1) lots of savings
2) wage-earning significant other
3) friends willing to be roomates (though this can be troublesome, and likely wont equate into your mortgage qualification)
4) money as a permanent gift from family


At that point, realities are what they are. You can only afford as much as your job pays and you can give as a downpayment, after your debts and taxes are considered. You can play games, like an 80% mortgage, 20% HE loan to finance the whoile property, etc., but youre still limited by what you can reasonably pay.

Given all the doom and gloom, Id just say to make sure that you maximize quality of location over vanity, desires, etc. Given how overstretched the general population is, how lousy their decisions are, how much money they waste, etc., when things come crashing, they will crash first with the mcmansions with too much space, too high a heating/cooling bill, and too far a commute. While nice for showing off and playing the vanity game, being expensive to keep up, keep hot/cold, and being far from the centers of prosperity will catch up with their prices and demand. So long as we don't let our cities and towns get too overrun with crime and corruption, things will be OK for places where people want to be - but that is a location-specific judgement.

JMH
 
Well, typically, you can get an interest-only loan, or an ARM loan with a "teaser" rate, and, if you don't make enough money, a stated-income loan.

Then you can be like the couple in CA making $15K a year who got a $720K loan.

Just don't worry about what will happen in two years.
 
Welcome to the "I lived in a dump until I could afford my first house" group. Then, for a while, you'll be a member of the, "I eat beans and brown bag it to make the house payment" group. Don't feel pregnant. You in good company.
 
I purchased my first home at age 22 for $116k. I drove a POS but quite reliable Honda Civic just replaced in 2004 with a Subaru WRX
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. I just learned to live mainly without and lean. The bad thing was that my savings was the equity in the home but no emergencies ever occurred.

The thing that helped me was that I ended up with roommates initially for about 6 years who ended up paying my entire mortgage + taxes. Once my girlfriend first then wife moved in they all got the boot. I never even owned a computer nor internet back then, just used work issued one(I'm in IT).

Fast forward to now at age 34 I am looking at the $500k-$600k range of homes in the same town. My salary has gone five times from age 21(self employed) however I still only pay myself about twice what I made at age 21 stashing otherwise for next home.

Basically live well below your means and its quite possible.
 
If you're dedicated to getting out of the house (trust me, it's highly over rated) ..then just put the post tax difference of what the cheapest house on the market is in savings. Trust me when I say that before costs started upramping recently ..having $20 in my wallet was about the norm for non-"living" expenses. Sure, I bought this and that in the everyday stuff that people do (gardening, fixing cars, house repairs and enhancements, clothing) ..but just "blowing money" was not an option.

You have an exceptional advantage living at home with mom and being single. I don't care what tax bracket you're in, there's nothing that trumps the costs related to a family. You should have no consumer debt ...a paid off newer car... and a progressive and aggressive savings plan that has a goal of home ownership (or whatever your goal is).

Do most do this? Nope, but you should and just about every swinging member out there wishes that they had. When you look back a few decades from now, you'll (most likely) have no appreciation for the petty (costly) distractions of your youth ..but I assure you that you'll loath the needless burden that you're carrying because of it.

Living at home can be an opportunity ...it can also just be an enabler.
 
Am 30 and 5 years into my junky house that was 1/2 the distance to work as the others in its price range: 23 minutes instead of 45.

Refi'd after a year and dumped PMI and 9 years and the payment was lowered. Part of the excuse of PMI is that the PMI payment is so expensive you might default.
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Now am putting up a 2 car garage (only real issue I had with the current shack I had when I was looking at houses) with zero debt, paying all cash. Ok, I opened a home depot credit line to save 10% on my first purchase (a couple garage doors) but will pay that off when the bill comes and close that account.

Find more about Dave Ramsey and listen to his radio show, buy his books 2nd hand.
 
I bought a foreclosure/flipped house (fortunetally, they did a decently good job on the flip and I got updated appliances and lots of new stuff), don't really make that much money yet, drive an older but ultra reliable Corolla, and save every freakin penny I can. I'm serious, when you buy cheaply and look for deals on EVERYTHING, and don't blow money on stupid craap (like, I return things I decide I won't need etc.), and never go blow a whaaad on new TVs, stereos etc. etc. etc., you can have an extra grand or two in an investment account with ease each year. Market's been killer and it adds up over a couple years.

Believe me, I used to just blow cash on stupid stuff; Taco Bell at least 3 times a week (for "4th" meal). Cut it all out and become an old thrifty coot.

Doesn't mean you have to starve. I cook some hellava good meals several times a week (thank god for the gas grill!).

Become a cheap skate, it works in the long run, and more and more people are gonna have to face that reality as time goes on. The days of a mediocre blue collor job allowing one to live like people did 50 years ago are LONG, LONG gone.
 
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There will always be deals on houses, even in a "hot" market - since you can, take your time and save the MAXIMUM amount of money you can. Funny I just had a strong memory of looking at repo's/foreclosed/etc beaters in Orange, HB, FV, Anaheim, etc in 1984 or so. Just keep looking - learn the market, make connections, etc.

Being an original OC guy (first house I owned was in Cali), it boggles my mind that people buy homes in Bumfuct, Desert County and commute to coastal OC for work. Glad I live where moisture falls from the sky.
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