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Get rid of the clutter, get some paint to touch up the rough spots. Clean the house well and fix any plumbing leaks.

Be prepared to vacate the house at a moments notice so the broker can show the house if a walk in suddenly is in the office wanting to look at houses.

If there aren't any offers in the first three months, you are probably priced too high, no matter what your broker may tell you.

Good luck with the sale.
 
Why are people telling him to fix up the house and rent storage space before he has even talked to a realtor or even decided to sell?

First thing's first. Talk to some realtors to gauge whether it's a seller's or buyer's market. They will suggest what you must fix versus what's optional. Every market is different, and the advice people give here may not apply to you. I know it wouldn't apply to me because where I live is a seller's market and I wouldn't need to fix anything in order to sell. How much sales inventory is there where you live? What is the average DOM for completed sales?

You should still pull your credit report to see if there are any mistakes. This can be done for free.
 
Originally Posted By: supton
I don't mind spending the money to fix it up, if the house would sell. If it's money well spent. Otherwise... I'd rather not. I made a poor decision in buying this place, and honestly, if I wait another 10 years, it'll be paid off, and the kids will have moved away. And I won't have to move.



If you don't mind living there and in ten years will be paid off and the kids gone, I would consider staying. We have a rather small house we raised 3 kids in and now that they are gone and the house is paid off we have more room than we need and live very cheaply. Ten years is not really that long to tough it out .
 
I'd spend a little money on obvious like paint and if carpet is done flooring.

I lived in a mistake home prior that was beyond nice but tiny 1100sf but sat on 12 acres of nice land. It had a failed septic and needed some electrical but I presumed next owner would expand it. That is exactly what happened. Is your lot in desirable area or piece of land for a tear down or expansion?
 
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
Then why not put in some sweat equity and get things fixed? There is nothing particularly difficult about doing some remodeling and most home repairs, and if you spend some time doing it, when this house is paid off you'll be in a much better position. Or you could continue to let the issues pile up, and hope they all magically go away in the future.


I started going down that path a year or two ago, and determined it was a mistake. I realized I was in over my head, and liable to need large amounts of money to do it right. At the very least I need professional help for guidance.

I consider the house to have many issues after cutting into sheetrock. To do it right, I need to reframe one exterior wall, and examine the other walls after stripping down to studs. All the clapboard needs to come off, as there is no sheathing, no vapor barrier and who knows what lurking in the other walls--which, BTW, is a balloon construction. Furthermore I have one wall which is bowing, owing to a lack of rafter ties--which cannot be added, nor can collar ties, as both would severely impinge upon critical living space.

Only to wind back up at ground zero--a house that is too small for the area. 700 square feet in an area where 1,200 is considered small.

The walls are 2x4's, the roof is 2x6's (or 2x8's, I forget), both of which are rather thin for proper insulation; furthermore, the house really needs to be lifted up a foot so as to gain proper usage of the basement (or forever walk into support beams). I'm noticing more water issues in the basement of late, so the french drains need to be redone too. It does not meet current setback rules; while any new construction could be grandfathered, at some point you really have to wonder. Putting on an addition to address space issues... still leaves all the other issues.

My best hope is to find someone who falls in love with the property and wants to build their dream house.
 
Originally Posted By: bradepb
If you don't mind living there and in ten years will be paid off and the kids gone, I would consider staying. We have a rather small house we raised 3 kids in and now that they are gone and the house is paid off we have more room than we need and live very cheaply. Ten years is not really that long to tough it out .


It's a strong thought, to be honest; but at times I really want to move so that we don't have to truck the kids around to visit friends--there is no one in walking distance for them to play with. Thankfully they live busy lives and it hasn't been an issue yet.

Also I don't know if we can make the house handicap accessible, which has already been a problem, and will only become a bigger issue.

Originally Posted By: madRiver
I lived in a mistake home prior that was beyond nice but tiny 1100sf but sat on 12 acres of nice land. It had a failed septic and needed some electrical but I presumed next owner would expand it. That is exactly what happened. Is your lot in desirable area or piece of land for a tear down or expansion?


I think it semi-desirable. It's close to lake, without actually having frontage. But access is pretty easy. Low crime and all that. Reasonable access to a highway for easy commuting north/south. Tax rate is reasonable.

However the properties immediate to us are simply not moving. So I don't think it's as desirable as I think it may be.
 
Sounds like you might be better off just renting your current house, and buying a new house that fits your needs, and will allow you to live in the area you want to live.

BC.
 
Originally Posted By: Bladecutter
Sounds like you might be better off just renting your current house, and buying a new house that fits your needs, and will allow you to live in the area you want to live.

BC.


Took a quick look into that this morning, and I don't think it would work. Town did their appraisal last year, and on a cashout refi I wouldn't have enough to cover 20% on two mortgages.

We did finally set up an interview with a realtor; that happens tomorrow. Realtor says its a sellers market, but said our target price is hard to hit. [For reference, my current front end ratio is 17%, and the property we're looking at would put us at 21%, kinda high.]

Wife and I came to the conclusion last night that, if the numbers don't work out with the realtor, then we are going to look into a refi and take out some cash. Part to fix up the house, part to just put cash back into our bank account. Not sure if I would do 15 or 30 year--we did 15 last time, got a good rate; but a 30 would increase cash flow.
 
Keep in mind realtors are like used car salesmen with nicer wardrobes. Meet with a good financial advisor to see what he or she recommends for your financial future. Not just based on this thread but some of your other ones dealing with cars, houses, retirement etc.
 
Originally Posted By: Bladecutter
Sounds like you might be better off just renting your current house, and buying a new house that fits your needs, and will allow you to live in the area you want to live.

BC.


^^^^^ sounds like the the correct answer to me.
 
Originally Posted By: Win
Originally Posted By: Bladecutter
Sounds like you might be better off just renting your current house, and buying a new house that fits your needs, and will allow you to live in the area you want to live.

BC.


^^^^^ sounds like the the correct answer to me.



edit: OK, just saw this:

"Took a quick look into that this morning, and I don't think it would work. Town did their appraisal last year, and on a cashout refi I wouldn't have enough to cover 20% on two mortgages.

We did finally set up an interview with a realtor; that happens tomorrow. Realtor says its a sellers market, but said our target price is hard to hit. [For reference, my current front end ratio is 17%, and the property we're looking at would put us at 21%, kinda high.
"

So, sell it on a contract, get their down payment and use that to help you make your next down payment, let them pay you interest, most of these types of buyers fizzle out at some point, and you get the house back and keep all the money to that point.
 
Originally Posted By: Win
So, sell it on a contract, get their down payment and use that to help you make your next down payment, let them pay you interest, most of these types of buyers fizzle out at some point, and you get the house back and keep all the money to that point.


At some point I'm sure one of the parties will trash the home especially after an eviction. Don't forget to tell the insurance company that it will be a rental.
 
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
Refinance to the hilt on the old house, buy your new house, and then default on the old one?
Think like you are too big to fail!


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The next Trump
 
Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Meet with a good financial advisor to see what he or she recommends for your financial future. Not just based on this thread but some of your other ones dealing with cars, houses, retirement etc.


I'm not sure what an adviser could tell me that I couldn't learn off the web. For free. "Save more, spend less."
 
Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Originally Posted By: Win
So, sell it on a contract, get their down payment and use that to help you make your next down payment, let them pay you interest, most of these types of buyers fizzle out at some point, and you get the house back and keep all the money to that point.


At some point I'm sure one of the parties will trash the home especially after an eviction. Don't forget to tell the insurance company that it will be a rental.


Never really had anyone specifically trash a home after an eviction. They've left it a mess and I've had to clean it out. I've done over 10 evictions, kinda lost count lately but haven't done one in the last 2 years so the economy must be getting better or I'm getting better at picking them. Anyway, I think if a tenant did something really bad to the property, I'd probably file criminal charges.
 
I think the problem may be that you might have to do some "what if" scenarios involving selling the home with minimal or complete repairs versus the financial loss ( paper or otherwise ) you're willing to take in relation to where you currently are...it might well be that waiting the 10 years may be your best option if you factor in things like your retirement kitty and home equity closer to retirement or "moving" age versus the trappings of a more expensive home.
 
Met with realtor today, confirmed that I read the market properly. Pristine condition, the house is about 15% less than I paid for it 11 years ago. If I had bothered to save up some cash I could live with the loss, but... I didn't, plus I think to sell the house in reasonable speed I'd lose even more than 15%.
 
Originally Posted By: supton
Met with realtor today, confirmed that I read the market properly. Pristine condition, the house is about 15% less than I paid for it 11 years ago. If I had bothered to save up some cash I could live with the loss, but... I didn't, plus I think to sell the house in reasonable speed I'd lose even more than 15%.

You lost 15% after 11 years ownership ? That isn't right.

For the same period of 11 years ownership(2005-2016), most So Cal homeowners would make about 50-70% or more. We had a slow down in 2008-2009, but we recovered the lost by 2011-2012 and started to gain above 2007 by 2013.
 
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