House flooded then Tesla burns it to the ground.
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I don't know what not living in cities matters when charging is primarily done at home. If I'm driving far enough to charge, I'm either going to pass by a charger or there will be one where I'm going.
The 1964 Alaskan quake affected the Northern California coast killing about a dozen people and causing much damage.
In 1964, tsunami alerts messages were sent to State Civil Defense offices and not sent directly to counties. California’s Civil Defense Office received information from the Honolulu Observatory at 9:30 PM PST on March 27, but did not issue alerts to counties until 11:08 PM. By that time, the estimated time of arrival of the tsunami in Crescent City was midnight and Del Norte Sheriff’s deputies had less than an hour to evacuate coastal areas.
https://rctwg.humboldt.edu/1964-great-alaska-earthquake-tsunami#:
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Three phase isn't available out in the boonies.
Maybe that's why Tesla has problems. I know other manufacturers seal the pack. They may have catastrophic failure venting points, but they're sealed, not "valves".
Nope. Volvo seals the case and then tests. This vent looks like some Tesla nonsense, lol! Noone else uses anything like it to my understanding...and noone else burns after a flood. Reason number 99,910 why I didn't buy a Tesla, I guess.
And as always, no one wants to wait hours to recharge these things on a cross country trip. Especially when it takes minutes to refuel with ICE.
This is a wall EV's will continue to hit for decades to come.
You don’t need 3 phase power to Level 2 charge an EV. I don’t understand what your road block is here. I get if you don’t want an EV, but it’s possible where you live. You’re inventing roadblocks that don’t exist.
My power company is offering variable rate pricing. You can install a separate meter for the EV and have a variable rate plan only for that meter. If I charged my Tesla between 11 pm and 7 am I would get a 5 cents/kW-hr discount. We have a 2 step system with a higher cost after a certain threshold. This past month I paid just over 8 cents/kW-hr but some months I pay 11 cents. With the discount I could charge the Tesla for 3 - 7 cents/kW-hr, depending on the month.
They probably have excess capacity during those hours so makes sense for them.
But after paying to have an electrician install a new meter, I doubt it would pay. But on a new home, sure.
They probably have excess capacity during those hours so makes sense for them.
But after paying to have an electrician install a new meter, I doubt it would pay. But on a new home, sure.
Have you ever you had to wait to charge an EV? Me neither.
Tesla's Nav system recommends where would be a good place to charge, for how long, and how many chargers are currently available.
Charging an EV for cross country driving requires a completely different strategy. You never "fill up" except at night (when you're sitting in your hotel room with a cold one). You only charge enough to get to the next convenient charging station (you decide whether you prefer frequent shorter stops or less frequent longer stops). Strangely enough you keep the battery as low as possible because it charges like crazy from the bottom up to 50 to 70% capacity. I aim for 15% charge on arrival but many people aim for 10%.
The Nav system predicts the remaining charge when you get to that next station, so if you've been using too much charge (eg driving fast) you can slow down to get to a number you're happier with.
He doesn’t have an EV. He’s just heard stories. I’ve never had to wait either.
I don’t know what Level 2 means. Here’s what I do know: I’ve never had to plan a drive based on refueling stops and I don’t want to start. That’s a roadblock that will continue to exist for quite a while I suspect.
And I can’t carry a spare jug of electricity in the trunk.
You’re overthinking it. Level 2 is the power required for a 240V appliance. 3 phase tends to run at 208V. I’ve never used it, but it isn’t a requirement for faster home charging.
Why are you even in the conversation if you’ve convinced yourself with a lack of knowledge? You’re just wasting your time here.
Do tell.
Last I looked Tesla was a US automaker and they've done rather well with EVs.
Why are you in a conversation about EVs bursting into flames and burning down houses? At least I found a way to spin that ‘feature’ into a plus. What did you contribute?
Are you kidding me? It's an EV section of the forum. I swear this section of the site is a lightning rod for people who have an opinion with no actual facts to back it up.
All you've done is complain about how you wouldn't and couldn't use an EV without any facts. Why are you here?
Don't expect common sense here. This section of the site has become a lightning rod for idiots.
What is the impact of salt water into a lithium cell? Isn’t there a chemical reaction?
Long before teslas filled the roads, R/C guys were using lithium cells commonly, and learning the hazards of wrecking a heli/car/plane and distorting a cell, or under/overcharging and seeing what happens after that.
The rule of thumb was to find any distorted, swollen, or otherwise misbehaving cell and immerse it in saltwater prior to disposal. I’ve absolutely done it and the battery distorts and sends out clouded goo. Mine were too small for thermal threats here, but it was clear that salt water reacted, whether shorting it out electrically or dismantling it chemically.
I wonder if this was the mechanism here.
Long before teslas filled the roads, R/C guys were using lithium cells commonly, and learning the hazards of wrecking a heli/car/plane and distorting a cell, or under/overcharging and seeing what happens after that.
The rule of thumb was to find any distorted, swollen, or otherwise misbehaving cell and immerse it in saltwater prior to disposal. I’ve absolutely done it and the battery distorts and sends out clouded goo. Mine were too small for thermal threats here, but it was clear that salt water reacted, whether shorting it out electrically or dismantling it chemically.
I wonder if this was the mechanism here.
Keep in mind it's "sealed." Seals, and sealants fail, with age, heat and cooling cycles, impacts, vibration, faulty workmanship, etc. You mentioned Tesla must be aware of it or they wouldn't be telling people to park 50' from the house if submerged. Stay tuned.