Hotshots oil vs schaeffers

[fantastic]

When Valvoline started marketing petroleum based lubricant oils, Schaeffer's was making candles.

That is true. Point being is that they are a family owned business that has been around longer than Valvoline. Trying to make a point of its history using petroleum which was before Valvoline existed. Scouring their history pages is interesting for both companies. I don't know how long Hotshots have been around & that may not matter to many of us. Valvoline & Schaeffer Oil makes excellent products.

https://www.schaefferoil.com/history.html

https://www.valvolineglobal.com/en/about-us/our-history/

 

[CleanSump]

That is true. Point being is that they are a family owned business that has been around longer than Valvoline. Trying to make a point of its history using petroleum which was before Valvoline existed. Scouring their history pages is interesting for both companies. I don't know how long Hotshots have been around & that may not matter to many of us. Valvoline & Schaeffer Oil makes excellent products.

https://www.schaefferoil.com/history.html

https://www.valvolineglobal.com/en/about-us/our-history/

I know. Not nitpicking, just like to see the history of companies and who did what when.

 

[RallyXaDSM]

When Valvoline started marketing petroleum based lubricant oils, Schaeffer's was making candles.

Schaeffer's was also producing their "Black Beauty" grease and "Red Engine Oil" for riverboats at that time. They actually switched from making those out of animal fats to using petroleum a few years before Valvoline existed. Valvoline was just the first to establish themselves as a dedicated oil company

 

[fantastic]

Schaeffer's was also producing their "Black Beauty" grease and "Red Engine Oil" for riverboats at that time. They actually switched from making those out of animal fats to using petroleum a few years before Valvoline existed. Valvoline was just the first to establish themselves as a dedicated oil company

Right, like the history stated about the westward expansion, they were using "grease" for the wheels of buggies etc.

 

[BHopkins]

No problem on the post of your opinion. In regards to your statement about an additive company that makes motor oil, how is that any different than a motor oil company that makes a fuel or oil additive. A company starts with one niche and expands. I'm not sticking up for any company I'm just trying to gather facts. And I was stated in another reply, every company started somewhere and had to have people buy and or truck and believe in the product. I've actually never heard of HPL but I am willing to look into it.

@High Performance Lubricants (aka HPL) is a supporter of BITOG, and has been active here, in providing automotive lubrication knowledge and information. They also provide BITOG members a discount. Their motor oils are very well formulated.

 

[OM617YOTA]

Hotshots is trust me bro marketing at its worst.

I tried their Everyday Diesel Treatment in my Land Cruiser. Expected zero difference and was very pleasantly surprised at the improvement. Very small doses required, very cost effective per treatment compared to other options. They can make at least one good product at a reasonable price.

I'm sure their oil is perfectly acceptable and won't make an engine blow up. Special compared to other options, rather skeptical. Worth the price premium they're charging, flatly don't believe.

Edit: I just looked it up, Hot Shots 15w40 is nearly the same price as High Performance Lubricants 15w40. If I was interested in spending $40/gal on diesel oil, I know which one I'd run.

 

[Duckless]

Hotshots is trust me bro marketing at its worst.
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but would never buy it due to their marketing and IIRC they had an oil marketed as PAO oil that was a high percentage of group III

I remember this. Anyone have a link? I thought it was marketed as 100% PAO and was essentially all group III. One big lie. If they would lie on that scale, why would I trust any of their other marketing?

 

[Rand]

I cant believe hotshots left this review up on their site.
This was a review of their Blue diamond PAO oil

Extends engine life

• The oil can be run 50,000–100,000 miles, as long as the oil is kept clean and monitored every 10K miles for TBN number A true PAO oil stands in a category of its own above all other synthetic formulas. Hot Shot’s Secret 15W40 CK4 specification is 100% pure synthetic using only Group IV and Group V base oils.

• HEAVY DUTY DIESEL ENGINE OIL 15W40 100% PAO FORMULA!

 

[RallyXaDSM]

I cant believe hotshots left this review up on their site.
This was a review of their Blue diamond PAO oil



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their customers giving that review thumbs down kinda says it all, doesn't it?

 

[JHogan]

Curious what information is available on the 2 oils for 15/40. I'm getting ready to send out both NEW oils for testing. Would love if you have oil sampling reports on either or both being compared. Thanks

Obviously PF testing methods are limited, but this will give some kind of idea about The Blue Diamond. Many NHRDA teams and IHRA PPL teams run our adrenaline competition oils, and then Green Diamond or Blue Diamond in their haulers. I work for Hot Shots btw. I'm actually trying to get our social team more involved with this site.

 

[Duckless]

Obviously PF testing methods are limited, but this will give some kind of idea about The Blue Diamond. Many NHRDA teams and IHRA PPL teams run our adrenaline competition oils, and then Green Diamond or Blue Diamond in their haulers. I work for Hot Shots btw. I'm actually trying to get our social team more involved with this site.

More involvement is certainly welcome, but I don't know if I would lead with a PF video here- the BITOG crowd gets cranky about those.

 

[JHogan]

No I agree, that’s why I made the statement about his methods. And to be fair, BITOGers get cranky about everything anyway at the end of the day. I’ve lurked around this site for quite some time.

 

[OM617YOTA]

And to be fair, BITOGers get cranky about everything anyway at the end of the day.

Truth!

 

[kschachn]

No I agree, that’s why I made the statement about his methods. And to be fair, BITOGers get cranky about everything anyway at the end of the day. I’ve lurked around this site for quite some time.

The problem with that video is that it's deceptive, claiming to give a quality determination between oils that does not exist IRT their test methods. So people believe the outcome when it doesn't mean a thing.

Hopefully that's not too cranky for you, just stating the facts.

 

[Fishstyx]

It his hard for me to give any respect to a motor oil that is made by a company which markets motor oil as a side line, with additives being the primary product that they market, and are known for.

So for me, it is no question. I would put a lot more trust in Schaeffers, who is known, first and foremost, for quality lubrication products.

I believe Schaeffers blends motor oil for many other labels, and for all I know, Schaeffers blends Hot Shot. But I don't know.

That all said, if you are paying the premium for Schaeffers, why not pay a little more, and go with HPL?

Oops! Sorry, I just reread your post, and see you are looking for test data on these products, not opinion. This morning, I shamefully fall in that category of not reading for content and comprehension. In the words of Capt. Hook, I'm a codfish.

Oh, by the way, welcome to BITOG.

Totally agree with you on what you said. Hot shots is now owned by the same company as Sta Bil Golden eagle. I think they contract out to highline Warren for their motor oil.

 

[Fishstyx]

No problem on the post of your opinion. In regards to your statement about an additive company that makes motor oil, how is that any different than a motor oil company that makes a fuel or oil additive. A company starts with one niche and expands. I'm not sticking up for any company I'm just trying to gather facts. And I was stated in another reply, every company started somewhere and had to have people buy and or truck and believe in the product. I've actually never heard of HPL but I am willing to look into it.

Hot shots doesn’t make their own motor oil. They sold out to Golden Eagle. The company that makes Staibil. They contract out to probably Highline Warren. Who makes Costco and Super Tech.

 

[danstraylee]

Obviously PF testing methods are limited, but this will give some kind of idea about The Blue Diamond. Many NHRDA teams and IHRA PPL teams run our adrenaline competition oils, and then Green Diamond or Blue Diamond in their haulers. I work for Hot Shots btw. I'm actually trying to get our social team more involved with this site.

How do guys like that get so many subscribers? I can't even get through 30 seconds of that video without fast forwarding and finally clicking off it.

 

[kschachn]

How do guys like that get so many subscribers? I can't even get through 30 seconds of that video without fast forwarding and finally clicking off it.

I’ve suggested several times that the guy should stick to knives, shovels and screwdrivers. When he floats into comparative motor oil quality he’s far out of his league and comes up with rankings or determinations that aren’t based on any actual substantive information whatsoever.

 

[crashz]

Obviously PF testing methods are limited, but this will give some kind of idea about The Blue Diamond. Many NHRDA teams and IHRA PPL teams run our adrenaline competition oils, and then Green Diamond or Blue Diamond in their haulers. I work for Hot Shots btw. I'm actually trying to get our social team more involved with this site.

I don't want you to get in trouble with your employer, but is there any info that you can expound on regarding the comments here? Like does Hot Shots blend their own engine oil? What are the base oils used? If this is proprietary, then just tell me to buzz off.

 

[danstraylee]

Gosh, I never heard of Hotshots or Schaeffers until I purchased my diesel pickup and happened upon this HDEO forum. I just use the good old Delvac brand that my company used for years on our fleet vehicles. I had no idea of these fancy oils for a diesel engine (Mobil 1 excluded). I'm almost 2nd guessing myself on the 3,000 - 5,000 mile oil change intervals.