are you defending the idiocy of Subaru's design choice?
or playing devil's advocate?
My home link also works when the ignition is off. It’s not ideal, but I’ve had regular openers in my cars for 30 years, so maybe I’m just complacent.
are you defending the idiocy of Subaru's design choice?
or playing devil's advocate?
Its definitely a first world problem. I could just deprogram it and use the visor clipped remote I can take in if it bothered me severely.My home link also works when the ignition is off. It’s not ideal, but I’ve had regular openers in my cars for 30 years, so maybe I’m just complacent.
So they're not connected to the internet - so being more complicated wouldn't be the case.No, it doesn't. You realize these things all still work the old-fashioned way ? The internet connectivity is just add'l to them. Our refrigerator and oven have Wi-Fi-capability and apps, but neither are set up and guess what ? We can still use the fridge and oven just fine....
You need to see some of the Japanese and Korean high end toilets!So they're not connected to the internet - so being more complicated wouldn't be the case.
I own things I've never hooked up too, where I just use them the old fashioned /uncomplicated way. I'm not sure what your point is.
The toilet reference was made in jest.
There’s a way to modify the wiring to a HomeLink mirror to make it active only when the car is on. I need to do that mod to the family fleet.I wish my outback didnt have a built in opener..
you can use it at all times don't even need a key.
only one I've ever heard of wired like that.
So you leave it parked outside.. smash window and open garage.. ugh.
I'm such a grumpy old man at heart, I laughed so hard at this.I'm not for it at all but I can imagine what salesmen/women will go through.
I'm guessing a salesman will deal with it like this with customers that don't like it: Your payment for 60 months on that new Pilot is $782 with $6K down and MyQ for 5 years after the trial is $179 which is $2.98 a month, don't let it get you down. The sales guy could add some brand bashing if needed like: You can buy a Nissan... that doesn't have it and see how much that will cost you in repairs and lost resell value in 5 years because that $179 bothers you.
EXACTLY. This is the kind of thing that should get a company like Honda's CEO or whatever genius came up with the idea tossed out of the job ASAP. As someone said: "Desperation time?"
Steve Lehto released a video on this subject.
Easier said than done. On my CHR for example, the communication module is a pass through for the Bluetooth mic, so if you disconnect the module, you lose the ability to talk hands free.My first move on any new car would be to disable any and all connections to the outside world. No updates on WiFi , no GPS, no nothing.
100% agreed, except I refuse to have any vehicle new enough for that to be a concern.My first move on any new car would be to disable any and all connections to the outside world. No updates on WiFi , no GPS, no nothing.
I think it applies to garage openers using the remote app, which requires a cellular signal. I can still open the garage door with the muttons on the rear view mirror.Am I missing something or is the article rage bait? The MyQ basic use is free. The MyQ up tiered subscriptions were not, so the user can pay for MyQ integration with their car, or they can use the app for free on their phone, or they can purchase the optional Home link mirror, which was always part of higher trims
I don't know of any any full-service app-controlled car services that are without subscriptions.
I can understand paying for the cellular service, I don't expect the cell companies to provide me a service for free.I think it applies to garage openers using the remote app, which requires a cellular signal. I can still open the garage door with the muttons on the rear view mirror.
I pay for the remote service, IIRC $99 a year. A little much but in case we somehow get locked out, it's an extra security layer. It's also nice seeing tire pressures and oil percentage.
Luckly, because my 2021 is an Elite model, somehow it was excluded from the app deprecation despite some 2025 models losing the full service.
I agree with you, if it can be updated via bluetooth to the app when you are in the car, awesome.I can understand paying for the cellular service, I don't expect the cell companies to provide me a service for free.
Turning off tire pressures and OLM, systems which use sensors and algorithms built into the vehicle that I "own", would absolutely infuriate me. I own those sensors and that ECU, Honda does not. Vehicle would be for sale the next day. I'm sure there's some T&C in the fine print that is agreed to when someone purchases said vehicle allowing this, else there would be a flurry of class action lawsuits immediately.
I still shake my head at this stuff, I can't believe anyone accepts this. All of those vehicles should rot on the lot until manufacturers pull their heads out of their backsides.
End rant, thank you for listening. Going to go hop in my intentionally very dumb unconnected-to-anything car and go take a walk in a park.