Honda factory fill 2003 Insight 4777 miles

[rrrrrroger]

iF YOU'RE CURIOUS ABOUT THE FACTORY FILL take a look at this. This is a copy-n-paste from a different forum. QUOTE: "I recently changed my oil for the first time on my new Insight and sent a sample of the original oil to Blackstone Laboratories for analysis. Here is the information from there report:

"COMMENTS: This is a new engine for us too so we are starting the average wear (universal averages) based on the 1.5L Civic. We will blend in 1.0L samples until wear is solidly standard and represents this type. you can write off the high metals (and silicon) in this sample to manufacturing left-overs. Since the engine is all aluminum that element may continue to read higher than our averages show is typical for a while. It will be interesting to see where it finally resides. The gas in the oil should disappear in the next sample The TBN [Total Base Number] was 8.5, plenty high. Use 5,000 mi next sample.


Mi/Hr on oil: 4,777 [miles on oil analyzed]
Mi/Hr on unit: 4,777 [miles on engine]
Sample Date: 05/22/03


Aluminum: 44
Chromium: 1
Iron: 16
Copper: 114
Lead: 2
Tin: 1
Molybdenum: 642
Nickel: 1
Manganese: 3
Silver: 0
Titanium: 0
Potassium: 0
Boron: 617
Silicon: 60
Sodium: 9
Calcium: 2142
Magnesium: 11
Phosphorus: 838
Zinc: 1027
Barium: 4

SUS Viscosity@ 210 degrees Farenheit: 48.6
Flashpoint in degrees Farenheit: 355
Fuel %: 0.5
Antifreeze %: 0.0
Water %: 0.0
Insolubles: 0.4

LINK: http://www.insightcentral.net/forums/hon...actory-oil.html

 

[Boomer]

SO this was done 10 years ago? Why would we think that is typical of current formulations?

 

[volk06]

TBN of 8.5 at 5K???? That seems way to good to be true.

 

[Artem]

Originally Posted By: Boomer
SO this was done 10 years ago? Why would we think that is typical of current formulations?


Who cares about current formulations. The OP is simply showing us what the FF looked like in the 2003 Honda Insight.

 

[rrrrrroger]

Originally Posted By: Boomer
Why would we think that is typical of current formulations?
I never said you should think that.

 

[cptbarkey]

i was hoping to see a more current model insight, but that car is a commercial and a product failure anyway. too bad.

 

[Jim Allen]

I'm always interested to see factory fill, break-in UOAs, from any era, so thanks for posting.

 

[rrrrrroger]

Originally Posted By: cptbarkey
i was hoping to see a more current model insight, but that car is a commercial and a product failure anyway. too bad.
Well who wants a two seat car? Where do you put your kid? Honda should have made it in 2 and 4 seat version (like they did with CRZ)

There's a new 5 seat nsight that is basically the same shape (fastback) but with a standard civic engine.

 

[blackman777]

Too tight

 

[friendly_jacek]

Thanks for posting. I expected high Mo, surprised about such high B.

 

[blackman777]

A new battery costs $3000 (including labor). That's as expensive as a new transmission install. Any money you save with your hybrid is erased. (Though I guess you culd just keep driving with the dead battery.)

 

[friendly_jacek]

Originally Posted By: blackman777
A new battery costs $3000 (including labor). That's as expensive as a new transmission install. Any money you save with your hybrid is erased. (Though I guess you culd just keep driving with the dead battery.)




Let's just assume posting while intoxicated and ignore it.

 

[electrolover]

Thats a pretty stout oil!

 

[MarkM66]

"Since the engine is all aluminum"

I doubt the cylinder walls are aluminum.

 

[blackman777]

Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
Originally Posted By: blackman777
A new battery costs $3000 (including labor)..... Any money you save with your hybrid is erased. (Though I guess you culd just keep driving with the dead battery.)
Let's just assume posting while intoxicated and ignore it.
I am sober and still hold the same opinion.

 

[surfstar]

Originally Posted By: blackman777
Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
Originally Posted By: blackman777
A new battery costs $3000 (including labor)..... Any money you save with your hybrid is erased. (Though I guess you culd just keep driving with the dead battery.)
Let's just assume posting while intoxicated and ignore it.
I am sober and still hold the same opinion.


Ah---[censored] it -- its not even worth trying to reason/respond to.

 

[skyship]

Interesting UOA, as most engines dump a lot of Iron, Crome and even some Lead running in, but this type is dumping Alloy and Copper, with the other wear metals almost normal.

 

[blackman777]

Originally Posted By: surfstar
Originally Posted By: blackman777
A new battery costs $3000 (including labor)..... Any money you save with your hybrid is erased. (Though I guess you culd just keep driving with the dead battery.)
Ah---frak it -- its not even worth trying to reason/respond to.


I'm guessing some of you think batteries never fail? Well visit an insight forum sometime. A lot of owners are complaining about failing (or weak) batteries at around 150,000 miles. They cost $3000 to $3500 to replace at the dealer.

 

[SteveSRT8]

No, it can't be true! Hybrids are saving the Earth from certain destruction!

Blackman777 obviously watches Fox news too much!

 

[blackman777]

No cable TV here.
I just watch whatever free channels come-in over the antenna: Japan's NHK, France24, RTamerica. Oh and a bunch of RetroTV and movie channels.