My daughter has an 08 CRV. I had an opportunity to change the oil this weekend when she was over and did so. The last change was October of last year and she put on just over 8k miles on this fill (Pennzoil Ultra). The OLM was at 40%. If my math is correct, the car would have gone close to 13k miles before it needed to be changed? That seems a little long but maybe not!?! In went Valvoline 0w20 Syn with a Royal Purple filter. Not having done a used oil analysis on the vehicle, I thought 8k miles on this run was enough. Thoughts?
Honda CRV OLM
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IIRC, Honda says to go by the OLM or 1 yr, whichever comes first.
PU is a stout oil made for long drain intervals. You didn't mention what kind of driving the car sees. IMO, 10K is nothing for PU but a used oil analysis would be the best way to tell you this.
PU is a stout oil made for long drain intervals. You didn't mention what kind of driving the car sees. IMO, 10K is nothing for PU but a used oil analysis would be the best way to tell you this.
When the Honda OLM reads 40% it means the oil life remaining is between 31 and 40%, so the suggested oil change interval could be slightly shorter than you calculated.
Watching th OLM on my 2015 CRV, it does seem that a really long interval is possible with lots of highway driving. Typical urban/suburban driving in warm weather seems to use about 10% of oil life in 700 miles, but primarily highway driving extends this to 1,300 - 1,400 miles per 10%. As I'm sure you know, like most IOLMs, Honda's is based on an algorithm and has no idea what oil is in the sump.
Like you, I get a little queasy with the idea of a 13,000 OCI and will probably use 40% or so as a target. My CRV has a DI engine, but seems to follow the same OLM rules as port-injected versions, so all the more reason to be cautious.
Watching th OLM on my 2015 CRV, it does seem that a really long interval is possible with lots of highway driving. Typical urban/suburban driving in warm weather seems to use about 10% of oil life in 700 miles, but primarily highway driving extends this to 1,300 - 1,400 miles per 10%. As I'm sure you know, like most IOLMs, Honda's is based on an algorithm and has no idea what oil is in the sump.
Like you, I get a little queasy with the idea of a 13,000 OCI and will probably use 40% or so as a target. My CRV has a DI engine, but seems to follow the same OLM rules as port-injected versions, so all the more reason to be cautious.
Why did you switch to VSP (a very good 0w20)? This will be a fundamental DP change from the PU. I am finding engines like to keep running same/similar formulation if possible.
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Why did you switch to VSP (a very good 0w20)? This will be a fundamental DP change from the PU. I am finding engines like to keep running same/similar formulation if possible.
Are you able to explain this theory further?
Why did you switch to VSP (a very good 0w20)? This will be a fundamental DP change from the PU. I am finding engines like to keep running same/similar formulation if possible.
Are you able to explain this theory further?
Originally Posted By: Danh
When the Honda OLM reads 40% it means the oil life remaining is between 31 and 40%, so the suggested oil change interval could be slightly shorter than you calculated.
Watching th OLM on my 2015 CRV, it does seem that a really long interval is possible with lots of highway driving. Typical urban/suburban driving in warm weather seems to use about 10% of oil life in 700 miles, but primarily highway driving extends this to 1,300 - 1,400 miles per 10%. As I'm sure you know, like most IOLMs, Honda's is based on an algorithm and has no idea what oil is in the sump.
Like you, I get a little queasy with the idea of a 13,000 OCI and will probably use 40% or so as a target. My CRV has a DI engine, but seems to follow the same OLM rules as port-injected versions, so all the more reason to be cautious.
I am considering purchasing a new Honda CRV for my wife. How do you like yours and have you had any issues? Happy with your purchase? Thank you...
When the Honda OLM reads 40% it means the oil life remaining is between 31 and 40%, so the suggested oil change interval could be slightly shorter than you calculated.
Watching th OLM on my 2015 CRV, it does seem that a really long interval is possible with lots of highway driving. Typical urban/suburban driving in warm weather seems to use about 10% of oil life in 700 miles, but primarily highway driving extends this to 1,300 - 1,400 miles per 10%. As I'm sure you know, like most IOLMs, Honda's is based on an algorithm and has no idea what oil is in the sump.
Like you, I get a little queasy with the idea of a 13,000 OCI and will probably use 40% or so as a target. My CRV has a DI engine, but seems to follow the same OLM rules as port-injected versions, so all the more reason to be cautious.
I am considering purchasing a new Honda CRV for my wife. How do you like yours and have you had any issues? Happy with your purchase? Thank you...
The wife loves hers. Plenty of room for her to shop with and gets good mileage. We have a dealership plan of which they chagne the oil and filters for free when the OLM goes off, for the life of the vehicle, or as long as we own it. I know they use a semi-synthetic. The OLM has been averaging around 12-14K miles, but this is 90% highway miles. She's a RN and will average about 14K a year.
Like mclasser said, 15% or one year, whichever comes first. You can even use dino for the OLM-suggested intervals. Your driving must be mostly highway to suggest OCI's that long; early Honda algorithms were more conservative than the later cars. My only experience is with an 08 Civic suggesting OCI's in the 6k range.
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Originally Posted By: Danh
When the Honda OLM reads 40% it means the oil life remaining is between 31 and 40%, so the suggested oil change interval could be slightly shorter than you calculated.
Watching th OLM on my 2015 CRV, it does seem that a really long interval is possible with lots of highway driving. Typical urban/suburban driving in warm weather seems to use about 10% of oil life in 700 miles, but primarily highway driving extends this to 1,300 - 1,400 miles per 10%. As I'm sure you know, like most IOLMs, Honda's is based on an algorithm and has no idea what oil is in the sump.
Like you, I get a little queasy with the idea of a 13,000 OCI and will probably use 40% or so as a target. My CRV has a DI engine, but seems to follow the same OLM rules as port-injected versions, so all the more reason to be cautious.
I am considering purchasing a new Honda CRV for my wife. How do you like yours and have you had any issues? Happy with your purchase? Thank you...
We like ours a lot. As you may know, the 2015s differ quite a bit from the 2012-2014 versions: direct injection, CVT instead of conventional 5 speed automatic, slightly wider stance, different interior upholstery and exterior style changes.
We've only had ours for 3k or so, but for what it's worth:
Pros
Spacious, really spacious, with a back seat comfortably habitable for 2 adults
Great fuel economy - we have a 400 mile highway trip (80% interstate, 20% two-lane) we make very regularly. The CRV averages about 33mpg on this route so far with liberal a/c use. By comparison, the V6 Ford Escape it replaced averaged about 24mpg.
Very solid with only one very minor plastic on plastic creak to track down.
The CVT works well and is essentially invisible unless you really watch for it. The engine is well-isolated and on the highway the tach is the only hint it's adjusting rpm to climb hills or accelerate. No more dramatic downshifts like a conventional automatic.
Quite quiet though coarse road surfaces can intrude a bit as is typical for Hondas.
DIY oil changes look dead-easy as the filter is very accessible. And absolutely zero oil consumption so far.
Steering is precise with decent road feel and handling is pretty good for this class of vehicle. Acceleration is certainly adequate.
Cons
Honda does acknowledge a vibration issue that can take 3 forms: 1) an idle vibration while in gear when engines revs mysteriously drop from a normal 750 or so to 600 2) a low-speed thrumming when accelerating gently in the 15-30 mph range and 3) a similar thrumming at highway speeds. Honda says it has a fix for 3) and is working on the other two. My car has 1) very rarely (a tug on the steering wheel stops it) and 2). I don't find either to be a large problem, but some owners are apoplectic about it, so just be aware.
While the interior is upgraded from the prior year, there is still a lot or hard plastic and not a lot of front cabin storage space.
Other makers, like Ford, have a much-better integrated audio system. The Honda has no knobs and voice recognition only with nav-equipped versions. Honda is really behind the curve in this respect.
We expect to have this car for a long time. Every car in this class has cons and we have no regrets. Good luck with your search!
Originally Posted By: Boss302fan
Originally Posted By: Danh
When the Honda OLM reads 40% it means the oil life remaining is between 31 and 40%, so the suggested oil change interval could be slightly shorter than you calculated.
Watching th OLM on my 2015 CRV, it does seem that a really long interval is possible with lots of highway driving. Typical urban/suburban driving in warm weather seems to use about 10% of oil life in 700 miles, but primarily highway driving extends this to 1,300 - 1,400 miles per 10%. As I'm sure you know, like most IOLMs, Honda's is based on an algorithm and has no idea what oil is in the sump.
Like you, I get a little queasy with the idea of a 13,000 OCI and will probably use 40% or so as a target. My CRV has a DI engine, but seems to follow the same OLM rules as port-injected versions, so all the more reason to be cautious.
I am considering purchasing a new Honda CRV for my wife. How do you like yours and have you had any issues? Happy with your purchase? Thank you...
We like ours a lot. As you may know, the 2015s differ quite a bit from the 2012-2014 versions: direct injection, CVT instead of conventional 5 speed automatic, slightly wider stance, different interior upholstery and exterior style changes.
We've only had ours for 3k or so, but for what it's worth:
Pros
Spacious, really spacious, with a back seat comfortably habitable for 2 adults
Great fuel economy - we have a 400 mile highway trip (80% interstate, 20% two-lane) we make very regularly. The CRV averages about 33mpg on this route so far with liberal a/c use. By comparison, the V6 Ford Escape it replaced averaged about 24mpg.
Very solid with only one very minor plastic on plastic creak to track down.
The CVT works well and is essentially invisible unless you really watch for it. The engine is well-isolated and on the highway the tach is the only hint it's adjusting rpm to climb hills or accelerate. No more dramatic downshifts like a conventional automatic.
Quite quiet though coarse road surfaces can intrude a bit as is typical for Hondas.
DIY oil changes look dead-easy as the filter is very accessible. And absolutely zero oil consumption so far.
Steering is precise with decent road feel and handling is pretty good for this class of vehicle. Acceleration is certainly adequate.
Cons
Honda does acknowledge a vibration issue that can take 3 forms: 1) an idle vibration while in gear when engines revs mysteriously drop from a normal 750 or so to 600 2) a low-speed thrumming when accelerating gently in the 15-30 mph range and 3) a similar thrumming at highway speeds. Honda says it has a fix for 3) and is working on the other two. My car has 1) very rarely (a tug on the steering wheel stops it) and 2). I don't find either to be a large problem, but some owners are apoplectic about it, so just be aware.
While the interior is upgraded from the prior year, there is still a lot or hard plastic and not a lot of front cabin storage space.
Other makers, like Ford, have a much-better integrated audio system. The Honda has no knobs and voice recognition only with nav-equipped versions. Honda is really behind the curve in this respect.
We expect to have this car for a long time. Every car in this class has cons and we have no regrets. Good luck with your search!
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