Newbie here..i did a search and did not find what I was looking for. I have a 2008 Accord with the 3.5l V-6, that is using about 1 quart every 2k miles. I have done all that could with my local Honda dealer and Honda of America to no avail. So the questions is, is there any advantage in using a "High Mileage" oil to reduce the consumption? I am using GC presently. Thanks
Honda Accord V6 oil usage
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The car should use no oil. I've never had a new car use any oil, and have cars with >200k that are tight. Leaks can occur though... Are you sure it is consumption?
If so I suggest you stop drinking the Honda Kool Aid and vote with your wallet. I've heard that it has to be a quart in 500-1000 mi to be considered extreme, and I'd be terribly dissatisfied if in your shoes.
Not sure if you can easily diagnose where inside (assuming it IS an internal thing) it is being consumed, but it may not hurt to try a High Mileage oil to just try to get some seal swell... Don't count on it though. If no dice and definitely not a leak, I'd want the oil least likely to poison my cat converter, so likely the oil with lowest zddp.
If so I suggest you stop drinking the Honda Kool Aid and vote with your wallet. I've heard that it has to be a quart in 500-1000 mi to be considered extreme, and I'd be terribly dissatisfied if in your shoes.
Not sure if you can easily diagnose where inside (assuming it IS an internal thing) it is being consumed, but it may not hurt to try a High Mileage oil to just try to get some seal swell... Don't count on it though. If no dice and definitely not a leak, I'd want the oil least likely to poison my cat converter, so likely the oil with lowest zddp.
how many miles on your car?
personally, i'd sell the car especially if honda will not do a darn thing. 1qt per 2k is too excessive for like new engine.
did you baby the car during break in? that could be why.
personally, i'd sell the car especially if honda will not do a darn thing. 1qt per 2k is too excessive for like new engine.
did you baby the car during break in? that could be why.
I am extremely disappointed in the way Honda has handled this issue. Especially in light of the fact that this is the 10th honda product that I have owned. This is my DD, and i had intended on keeping it for some time. I am sure there is no leak. I did not baby it during the break-in period. It has 37k on it now.
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Green GC does not burn away easily.
However, I'd try a good conventional oil, a 10w30 when possible.
However, I'd try a good conventional oil, a 10w30 when possible.
A quart every 2k is within the "normal" parameters. I don't think the longevity of your engine is compromised by this use. Switch to Mobil 1 Extended Performance and see how it does. What weight oil are you using? P. S. The more you rev it,the more oil it's gonna use. Drive more conservatively and it will use less oil.
Next time you break in a motor,don't baby the thing.
Drive it balls to the wall right out of the show room.
You won't burn so much oil.
Drive it balls to the wall right out of the show room.
You won't burn so much oil.
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My family has babied every Honda we've owned during break-in, and even our '08 Ridgeline with the same 3.5L J35 V6 consumes actually no oil in the ~7,500 mile OCI.
Also, did you change the break-in oil early, I know Honda states specifically to leave the break-in oil in the crankcase for the duration of the MM's recommendations.
Also, did you change the break-in oil early, I know Honda states specifically to leave the break-in oil in the crankcase for the duration of the MM's recommendations.
Originally Posted By: garlicbreadman
did you baby the car during break in? that could be why.
Originally Posted By: XCELERATIONRULES
Next time you break in a motor,don't baby the thing.
When will this myth stop?
You think modern engines need "ring seating" break-ins? What do you think they do at the factory, sit on their hands and whistle?
(Hint: They seat the rings, at full power, at the factory, so that the consumer can't mess it up. All you have to do when you get it home is just drive normally.)
The OP got a lemon and the customer service is not doing their job, nothing more.
did you baby the car during break in? that could be why.
Originally Posted By: XCELERATIONRULES
Next time you break in a motor,don't baby the thing.
When will this myth stop?
You think modern engines need "ring seating" break-ins? What do you think they do at the factory, sit on their hands and whistle?
(Hint: They seat the rings, at full power, at the factory, so that the consumer can't mess it up. All you have to do when you get it home is just drive normally.)
The OP got a lemon and the customer service is not doing their job, nothing more.
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Originally Posted By: FZ1
A quart every 2k is within the "normal" parameters. I don't think the longevity of your engine is compromised by this use. Switch to Mobil 1 Extended Performance and see how it does. What weight oil are you using? P. S. The more you rev it,the more oil it's gonna use. Drive more conservatively and it will use less oil.
Normal on paper maybe?
I drive the LIVING TAR out of my Expedition; ZERO consumption on Mobil 1 0w40 or PC 0w40. 1L in 10,000Km if I run the spec'd 5w20. And this is HARD driving. VERY hard driving. It has 120,000 miles on it.
I would be getting rid of this car ASAP if Honda isn't willing to step up to the plate and make it right.
A quart every 2k is within the "normal" parameters. I don't think the longevity of your engine is compromised by this use. Switch to Mobil 1 Extended Performance and see how it does. What weight oil are you using? P. S. The more you rev it,the more oil it's gonna use. Drive more conservatively and it will use less oil.
Normal on paper maybe?
I drive the LIVING TAR out of my Expedition; ZERO consumption on Mobil 1 0w40 or PC 0w40. 1L in 10,000Km if I run the spec'd 5w20. And this is HARD driving. VERY hard driving. It has 120,000 miles on it.
I would be getting rid of this car ASAP if Honda isn't willing to step up to the plate and make it right.
Have you tried running a 5w20 oil?
shurkai: Have you gotten Honda Corporate involved? Or tried another dealer? Raising a big stink often brings out someone with the Lysol. Be relentless. OIl burning on a low miles Honda is atypical. Frankly, so is the treatment you are receiving.
Our Honda Accord 3.0L V6 is 10 years old this year and has never consumed a DROP of oil. And it was babied from day one to boot. Well, when it was about a year old, I did a full speed run out on a deserted Utah highway, but it had about 8K on it then.
Ring seating occurs over a pretty short period. If the engine was hot tested at the factory, that job was done, as mentioned earlier. All it takes once the new owner gets the car, is a few full throttle runs, followed by some hard engine-braking decelerations and the job is basically done.
If you do end up stuck with this car, it will be time to experiment with High Mileage oils and viscosity to see what burns the slowest. Or, trade it in while it's still new. Not fun, eh?
Our Honda Accord 3.0L V6 is 10 years old this year and has never consumed a DROP of oil. And it was babied from day one to boot. Well, when it was about a year old, I did a full speed run out on a deserted Utah highway, but it had about 8K on it then.
Ring seating occurs over a pretty short period. If the engine was hot tested at the factory, that job was done, as mentioned earlier. All it takes once the new owner gets the car, is a few full throttle runs, followed by some hard engine-braking decelerations and the job is basically done.
If you do end up stuck with this car, it will be time to experiment with High Mileage oils and viscosity to see what burns the slowest. Or, trade it in while it's still new. Not fun, eh?
Originally Posted By: znode
Originally Posted By: garlicbreadman
did you baby the car during break in? that could be why.
Originally Posted By: XCELERATIONRULES
Next time you break in a motor,don't baby the thing.
When will this myth stop?
You think modern engines need "ring seating" break-ins? What do you think they do at the factory, sit on their hands and whistle?
(Hint: They seat the rings, at full power, at the factory, so that the consumer can't mess it up. All you have to do when you get it home is just drive normally.)
FWIW our 2003 Accord V6 came with specific instructions on how to "break-in" the cars engine for the first 1,000 miles.
Originally Posted By: garlicbreadman
did you baby the car during break in? that could be why.
Originally Posted By: XCELERATIONRULES
Next time you break in a motor,don't baby the thing.
When will this myth stop?
You think modern engines need "ring seating" break-ins? What do you think they do at the factory, sit on their hands and whistle?
(Hint: They seat the rings, at full power, at the factory, so that the consumer can't mess it up. All you have to do when you get it home is just drive normally.)
FWIW our 2003 Accord V6 came with specific instructions on how to "break-in" the cars engine for the first 1,000 miles.
My 2c worth, just for comparison,
I have a '02TL with the 3.2, and it will consume ~1/2 a lt(qt) over 2k (km or miles) doing groceries and shorts runs etc... which I find acceptable.
On the highway is doesn't consume a drop..
I have a '02TL with the 3.2, and it will consume ~1/2 a lt(qt) over 2k (km or miles) doing groceries and shorts runs etc... which I find acceptable.
On the highway is doesn't consume a drop..
Originally Posted By: shurkai
I am extremely disappointed in the way Honda has handled this issue. Especially in light of the fact that this is the 10th honda product that I have owned. This is my DD, and i had intended on keeping it for some time. I am sure there is no leak. I did not baby it during the break-in period. It has 37k on it now.
I worked at two different Honda dealers, everything is all fine and dandy until you have a problem like yours, which isn't so cut and dry, the the [censored] starts. Your engine uses oil, after 37K the break in is done.
As someone else mentioned if Honda Corporate doesn't want to help, vote with your wallet, trade it in or sell it and buy another brand. If it is a V6 the transmissions aren't that great either.
Best wishes and good luck!
I am extremely disappointed in the way Honda has handled this issue. Especially in light of the fact that this is the 10th honda product that I have owned. This is my DD, and i had intended on keeping it for some time. I am sure there is no leak. I did not baby it during the break-in period. It has 37k on it now.
I worked at two different Honda dealers, everything is all fine and dandy until you have a problem like yours, which isn't so cut and dry, the the [censored] starts. Your engine uses oil, after 37K the break in is done.
As someone else mentioned if Honda Corporate doesn't want to help, vote with your wallet, trade it in or sell it and buy another brand. If it is a V6 the transmissions aren't that great either.
Best wishes and good luck!
The method I prefer to use is to find a long higher speed grade and use about 3/4 throttle for 15 seconds or so, to exert some pressure on the rings. I do this for the first few hundred miles whenever the opportunity arises. Thankfully, have never had a oil user, that I bought new.
My ex drives a Saturn VUE with the Honda J35 3.5L. It's got about 60k miles on it now. It's had a steady diet of Motorcraft 5W-20 synthetic blend since it was new. The oil gets changed when the oil service light comes on and that's usually around 6500 miles. In that time frame, it normally uses about 1/2qt.
Using 1qt every 2000 miles is a nuisance, but I don't find it to be that big of a deal. Buy yourself a few 5qt jugs of the above mentioned Motorcraft synthetic blend at Walmart @$12.50 each and make a mental note to avoid your local Honda dealer next time you get the new car itch.
Best,
Using 1qt every 2000 miles is a nuisance, but I don't find it to be that big of a deal. Buy yourself a few 5qt jugs of the above mentioned Motorcraft synthetic blend at Walmart @$12.50 each and make a mental note to avoid your local Honda dealer next time you get the new car itch.
Best,
I noticed some oil burning on my '02 Accord V6. I concluded it was occurring when I was pulling my Small Bass Boat at highway speeds. I further concluded that the burning was occurring because of the auto down shifting on hills. I clicked off the cruise control and just feathered the throttle up the hills so there was no down shift....viola!!....hardly any oil burning! 108k and my Accord runs,as it always has,like new.
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