Home air freshener scents = smaller than an oxygen molecule.

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I think small percentage of you might find this interesting. For those that don't, please consider this a caution. I am refurbishing a spare oxygen concentrator for a family member. DISCLAIMER: For those that their life depends on reliable concentrated oxygen, it is never a smart idea to buy one used and expect it to be your primary machine unless you send it off for professional service and re-certification. However for those that are renting a primary machine from medicare, and have a good backup supply of oxygen tanks, the risk of buying a used machine for traveling / other homes / camps, this risk can be minimized.
One typical downside to a used machine, is the interior of the unit typically has acoustic foam to lower the sound. This foam tends to absorb tons of smells such as; pet, mold, cooking odors (curry), and air freshener smells. During refurbishing, it is wise to gut the old nasty, decomposed foam and discard it, then re-line the interior with fresh new acoustic foam and a water based, non VOC adhesive. This is typically how the bio med companies do it.

Here is where it gets interesting. Many people think that there are HEPA filters inside the machine to make sure the patient is breathing ultra filtered oxygen. This is not really the case. There is a very coarse primary gross particulate filter to keep the machine somewhat clean inside, then a secondary HEPA filter to pre filter the intake air to the compressor, then after the air travels thru the sieve beds, there is a final bacterial micro disk filter to protect the patient. (Incorrect theory of operation removed by fordiesel69) see mk378's reply. It is explained much better.

The machine I purchased for cheap, even after gutting the nasty foam out, the pure oxygen discharging from it still smells a little bit like the glade plug in air fresheners their house was littered with. This is very alarming as if these odors are able to make it thru the sieve beds, then whatever these air fresheners are made out of, must be extra toxic to us. To think we are breathing in these chemicals that even zeolite sieves cannot filter out at the picometer level, tells us that the molecules are very tiny, and are breaching our blood / oxygen barrier. This should be cause for alarm.

I will be sending off the sieve beds for a repour. A company will dump out the old zeolite, and refill with new, and then test and recertify them.
 
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Thanks for the info! I never needed that kind of oxygen supplementation, but have an aunt that does.
All of this, especially the degraded foam part, reminds me of the C-PAP recall of a few years back.
I do use a C-pap, and love it, but that crude filter that they use is pretty worthless.

They charge Medicare at least 4 times what it should cost.
I'm also glad that we don't use a bunch of air fresheners in our house.
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I’m not sure what you’re really asking for here.

First of all, any complex organic molecule, like the “glade” scent that you can smell, is gonna be considerably larger than the O2 molecule, so no, you’re not really filtering, or it wouldn’t make it through.

In fact, the N2 is not appreciably larger than the O2, so, uh, you’re not filtering on the basis of size. N2 is 364nm, while O2 is 346 nm. There is no simple filter that lets one of those through without letting the other through.

So, the sieve isn’t really filtering, rather, it is absorbing. Please see the other posts on this. Absorption is how it works.

Those odors, then, are actually making it through the sieve beds, because they’re not absorbed, and because they are present in the rest of the machine, there isn’t much else to be done, except clean all the parts again, to remove the odors that have absorbed into the surface of the plastic parts.
 
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> Guess where all of the filtering takes place? Yes in the actual sieve beds.

That is not exactly how the machine works.

The zeolite column does not "filter" anything. It pulls nitrogen out of the air leaving a more concentrated oxygen. Other gasses or molecules are relatively unaffected.

At high pressure, nitrogen preferentially adsorbs into the zeolite column. The gas leaving the other end of the column is thus reduced in nitrogen, left with a higher percentage of oxygen as well as every other gas that entered the column. This is supplied to the patient.

After a period of operation the zeolite becomes saturated with nitrogen. The machine then switches to the other column which begins supplying the patient. The pressure in the previously used column is reduced to "regenerate" it. At low pressure, zeolite releases its captured nitrogen, so the gas leaving the regenerating column is almost all nitrogen. This is how a nitrogen tire filler "produces" nitrogen. In the medical application there is no use for nitrogen so it is simply vented out to the room.
 
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That's not how a molecular sieve works. Those have molecular cages that are specific to the molecule they are trapping, they can ignore molecules that are smaller or larger. Scents are typically conglomerates of different oils and are not being trapped, but that doesn't mean they are smaller than an O2 molecule. Quite the opposite. Most are likely adhered to the pellet surface or inside the machine and are floating off over time.

Very hard to completely rid something of some scents since it can take only one molecule to elicit an olfactory response. It also doesn't mean they are toxic, which I highly doubt they are. It's not alarming, only annoying.
 
Annoying might be a better word to use.

I did watch the animation on pressure swing absorption on these concentrators and indeed I explained it wrong. But I did know its not filtering, its absorbing the other gasses letting the o2 thru and then exhausting those gases to regenerate over and over.
 
Annoying might be a better word to use.

I did watch the animation on pressure swing absorption on these concentrators and indeed I explained it wrong. But I did know its not filtering, its absorbing the other gasses letting the o2 thru and then exhausting those gases to regenerate over and over.
Yeah, so the Glade smell has absorbed into the plastic of the machine. Clean it a few more times. Best you can do.
 
Annoying might be a better word to use.

I did watch the animation on pressure swing absorption on these concentrators and indeed I explained it wrong. But I did know its not filtering, its absorbing the other gasses letting the o2 thru and then exhausting those gases to regenerate over and over.
Just nitrogen.
 
They might have mixed something in there to adsorb CO2 as well because that gets uncomfortable to breathe much above the 400 ppm that is in "normal" air these days.
 
Where does the N2 go? Does it get vented out somehow?
That’s how these things work - the zeolite absorbs N2 under pressure, releases it when not under pressure.

So, the machines alternates which of the two canisters is under pressure and which one is venting.

So, one canister of zeolite is under pressure, absorbing N2, while the other is being vented to release the N2, then, they swap.
 
They might have mixed something in there to adsorb CO2 as well because that gets uncomfortable to breathe much above the 400 ppm that is in "normal" air these days.
General indoor environment of 1,000ppm CO2 or lower is considered good air quality, OSHA 8hr limit is 5,000ppm averaged. Most won't notice anything until over 1,000ppm
 
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