Does anyone offer a high mileage oil that would be OK for use in a 2009 2.5l i5 Beetle?
high mileage oil for 2.5l VW?
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There is Mobil 1 High Mileage 10w40.
How many miles are we talking about? I wouldn't bother with a High Mileage oil unless it's leaking and burning a lot, or if you're well over 200k.
How many miles are we talking about? I wouldn't bother with a High Mileage oil unless it's leaking and burning a lot, or if you're well over 200k.
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Does it consume or leak? What makes you think you need one at all?
I agree though about the HM 10w-40, as it is an ACEA A3 oil.
I agree though about the HM 10w-40, as it is an ACEA A3 oil.
This car has 143k on it. Not really sure on the maint history. However just recently I checked the oil and it was nearly 4qts low on a 6.3qt sump. This oil change has 6k on it and vw recommends 10k. I *think* that the oil change place used Amsoil XL 5w30 from the receipt. Doesn't seem yo be burning and I don't see any visible leaks. My plan was to do the change myself and monitor it. Too many variables on it right now, but that is a lot of oil loss/use so I was looking for a high mileage option.
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Originally Posted By: JHZR2
I agree though about the HM 10w-40, as it is an ACEA A3 oil.
In addition, Mobil 1 High Mileage 10w30 meets ACEA A3, too.
Both are probably less than ideal for a Detroit winter.
I agree though about the HM 10w-40, as it is an ACEA A3 oil.
In addition, Mobil 1 High Mileage 10w30 meets ACEA A3, too.
Both are probably less than ideal for a Detroit winter.
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Originally Posted By: Johnny248
This car has 143k on it. Not really sure on the maint history. However just recently I checked the oil and it was nearly 4qts low on a 6.3qt sump. This oil change has 6k on it and vw recommends 10k. I *think* that the oil change place used Amsoil XL 5w30 from the receipt. Doesn't seem yo be burning and I don't see any visible leaks. My plan was to do the change myself and monitor it. Too many variables on it right now, but that is a lot of oil loss/use so I was looking for a high mileage option.
Try Mobil 1 0W40 or Shell Rotella T6 5W40.
This car has 143k on it. Not really sure on the maint history. However just recently I checked the oil and it was nearly 4qts low on a 6.3qt sump. This oil change has 6k on it and vw recommends 10k. I *think* that the oil change place used Amsoil XL 5w30 from the receipt. Doesn't seem yo be burning and I don't see any visible leaks. My plan was to do the change myself and monitor it. Too many variables on it right now, but that is a lot of oil loss/use so I was looking for a high mileage option.
Try Mobil 1 0W40 or Shell Rotella T6 5W40.
Originally Posted By: Johnny248
This car has 143k on it. Not really sure on the maint history. However just recently I checked the oil and it was nearly 4qts low on a 6.3qt sump. This oil change has 6k on it and vw recommends 10k. I *think* that the oil change place used Amsoil XL 5w30 from the receipt. Doesn't seem yo be burning and I don't see any visible leaks. My plan was to do the change myself and monitor it. Too many variables on it right now, but that is a lot of oil loss/use so I was looking for a high mileage option.
This car has 143k on it. Not really sure on the maint history. However just recently I checked the oil and it was nearly 4qts low on a 6.3qt sump. This oil change has 6k on it and vw recommends 10k. I *think* that the oil change place used Amsoil XL 5w30 from the receipt. Doesn't seem yo be burning and I don't see any visible leaks. My plan was to do the change myself and monitor it. Too many variables on it right now, but that is a lot of oil loss/use so I was looking for a high mileage option.
I'd stick with an approved 5w40 for now. Monitor it for the next change interval and see how it does.
Some readily available 502/505 approved oils:
Mobil 1 0w40
Valvoline SynPower 5w40
Castrol Edge 5w40
Castrol Edge 0w40
Castrol Edge 0w30
Some readily available 502/505 approved oils:
Mobil 1 0w40
Valvoline SynPower 5w40
Castrol Edge 5w40
Castrol Edge 0w40
Castrol Edge 0w30
JHZR2
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
I agree though about the HM 10w-40, as it is an ACEA A3 oil.
In addition, Mobil 1 High Mileage 10w30 meets ACEA A3, too.
Both are probably less than ideal for a Detroit winter.
Thought so, but the last bottle I saw said a1 and a5...
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
I agree though about the HM 10w-40, as it is an ACEA A3 oil.
In addition, Mobil 1 High Mileage 10w30 meets ACEA A3, too.
Both are probably less than ideal for a Detroit winter.
Thought so, but the last bottle I saw said a1 and a5...
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
I agree though about the HM 10w-40, as it is an ACEA A3 oil.
In addition, Mobil 1 High Mileage 10w30 meets ACEA A3, too.
Both are probably less than ideal for a Detroit winter.
Thought so, but the last bottle I saw said a1 and a5...
With an HT/HS of 3.5cP, it can't be A1/A5...
Are you sure you weren't looking at the 5w30 grade instead?
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/NAXXENPVLMOMobil_1_High_Mileage_Oil.aspx
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
I agree though about the HM 10w-40, as it is an ACEA A3 oil.
In addition, Mobil 1 High Mileage 10w30 meets ACEA A3, too.
Both are probably less than ideal for a Detroit winter.
Thought so, but the last bottle I saw said a1 and a5...
With an HT/HS of 3.5cP, it can't be A1/A5...
Are you sure you weren't looking at the 5w30 grade instead?
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/NAXXENPVLMOMobil_1_High_Mileage_Oil.aspx
JHZR2
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Probably...
Originally Posted By: dparm
I'd stick with an approved 5w40 for now. Monitor it for the next change interval and see how it does.
Some readily available 502/505 approved oils:
Mobil 1 0w40
Valvoline SynPower 5w40
Castrol Edge 5w40
Castrol Edge 0w40
Castrol Edge 0w30
That's my plan. Thinking either the M1 or Rotella. This is the firt VW experience and I don't now too much about them but I was told that these 2.5l engine have tendancy to consume some oil. At this rate there is no way it would make it to 10k. It would run out of oil and blow up lol
I'd stick with an approved 5w40 for now. Monitor it for the next change interval and see how it does.
Some readily available 502/505 approved oils:
Mobil 1 0w40
Valvoline SynPower 5w40
Castrol Edge 5w40
Castrol Edge 0w40
Castrol Edge 0w30
That's my plan. Thinking either the M1 or Rotella. This is the firt VW experience and I don't now too much about them but I was told that these 2.5l engine have tendancy to consume some oil. At this rate there is no way it would make it to 10k. It would run out of oil and blow up lol
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Originally Posted By: Johnny248
Originally Posted By: dparm
I'd stick with an approved 5w40 for now. Monitor it for the next change interval and see how it does.
Some readily available 502/505 approved oils:
Mobil 1 0w40
Valvoline SynPower 5w40
Castrol Edge 5w40
Castrol Edge 0w40
Castrol Edge 0w30
That's my plan. Thinking either the M1 or Rotella. This is the firt VW experience and I don't now too much about them but I was told that these 2.5l engine have tendancy to consume some oil. At this rate there is no way it would make it to 10k. It would run out of oil and blow up lol
Whatever you do, stay away from Castrol 5W40. Although that engine is not hard on oil like 2.0T, that oil is on low end quality when it comes to Euro oils.
Considering engine is either burning oil or maybe leaking, I would go with M1 since it is W40, and much better then Valvoline 5W40, and it is VW approved, unlike Rotella (which is though, a very good oil).
Originally Posted By: dparm
I'd stick with an approved 5w40 for now. Monitor it for the next change interval and see how it does.
Some readily available 502/505 approved oils:
Mobil 1 0w40
Valvoline SynPower 5w40
Castrol Edge 5w40
Castrol Edge 0w40
Castrol Edge 0w30
That's my plan. Thinking either the M1 or Rotella. This is the firt VW experience and I don't now too much about them but I was told that these 2.5l engine have tendancy to consume some oil. At this rate there is no way it would make it to 10k. It would run out of oil and blow up lol
Whatever you do, stay away from Castrol 5W40. Although that engine is not hard on oil like 2.0T, that oil is on low end quality when it comes to Euro oils.
Considering engine is either burning oil or maybe leaking, I would go with M1 since it is W40, and much better then Valvoline 5W40, and it is VW approved, unlike Rotella (which is though, a very good oil).
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: Johnny248
Originally Posted By: dparm
I'd stick with an approved 5w40 for now. Monitor it for the next change interval and see how it does.
Some readily available 502/505 approved oils:
Mobil 1 0w40
Valvoline SynPower 5w40
Castrol Edge 5w40
Castrol Edge 0w40
Castrol Edge 0w30
That's my plan. Thinking either the Mobil 1 or Rotella. This is the firt VW experience and I don't now too much about them but I was told that these 2.5l engine have tendancy to consume some oil. At this rate there is no way it would make it to 10k. It would run out of oil and blow up lol
Whatever you do, stay away from Castrol 5W40. Although that engine is not hard on oil like 2.0T, that oil is on low end quality when it comes to Euro oils.
Considering engine is either burning oil or maybe leaking, I would go with Mobil 1 since it is W40, and much better then Valvoline 5W40, and it is VW approved, unlike Rotella (which is though, a very good oil).
Not arguing with the Castrol comments, but isn't the Castrol 5w40 what VW actually recommends using?
After doing some reading about the 502.xx specs, I doesn't seem like it is as important with this engine and the fact that it is out of warranty. My easy local choices are the Mobil 1 0w40, Rotella 5w40, and Delo 400LE 5w40.
The Delo is the least expensive and I would think would do the trick. Especially since I need to do a fresh change and monitor. Saving a few bucks always helps.
Originally Posted By: Johnny248
Originally Posted By: dparm
I'd stick with an approved 5w40 for now. Monitor it for the next change interval and see how it does.
Some readily available 502/505 approved oils:
Mobil 1 0w40
Valvoline SynPower 5w40
Castrol Edge 5w40
Castrol Edge 0w40
Castrol Edge 0w30
That's my plan. Thinking either the Mobil 1 or Rotella. This is the firt VW experience and I don't now too much about them but I was told that these 2.5l engine have tendancy to consume some oil. At this rate there is no way it would make it to 10k. It would run out of oil and blow up lol
Whatever you do, stay away from Castrol 5W40. Although that engine is not hard on oil like 2.0T, that oil is on low end quality when it comes to Euro oils.
Considering engine is either burning oil or maybe leaking, I would go with Mobil 1 since it is W40, and much better then Valvoline 5W40, and it is VW approved, unlike Rotella (which is though, a very good oil).
Not arguing with the Castrol comments, but isn't the Castrol 5w40 what VW actually recommends using?
After doing some reading about the 502.xx specs, I doesn't seem like it is as important with this engine and the fact that it is out of warranty. My easy local choices are the Mobil 1 0w40, Rotella 5w40, and Delo 400LE 5w40.
The Delo is the least expensive and I would think would do the trick. Especially since I need to do a fresh change and monitor. Saving a few bucks always helps.
edyvw
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Originally Posted By: Johnny248
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: Johnny248
Originally Posted By: dparm
I'd stick with an approved 5w40 for now. Monitor it for the next change interval and see how it does.
Some readily available 502/505 approved oils:
Mobil 1 0w40
Valvoline SynPower 5w40
Castrol Edge 5w40
Castrol Edge 0w40
Castrol Edge 0w30
That's my plan. Thinking either the Mobil 1 or Rotella. This is the firt VW experience and I don't now too much about them but I was told that these 2.5l engine have tendancy to consume some oil. At this rate there is no way it would make it to 10k. It would run out of oil and blow up lol
Whatever you do, stay away from Castrol 5W40. Although that engine is not hard on oil like 2.0T, that oil is on low end quality when it comes to Euro oils.
Considering engine is either burning oil or maybe leaking, I would go with Mobil 1 since it is W40, and much better then Valvoline 5W40, and it is VW approved, unlike Rotella (which is though, a very good oil).
Not arguing with the Castrol comments, but isn't the Castrol 5w40 what VW actually recommends using?
After doing some reading about the 502.xx specs, I doesn't seem like it is as important with this engine and the fact that it is out of warranty. My easy local choices are the Mobil 1 0w40, Rotella 5w40, and Delo 400LE 5w40.
The Delo is the least expensive and I would think would do the trick. Especially since I need to do a fresh change and monitor. Saving a few bucks always helps.
Yes they use it. It is cheapest option for them!
Castrol 5W40 does not meet MB 229.5, only MB 229.3, which means it leaves much more deposits then Mobil 1 or GC or BC.
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: Johnny248
Originally Posted By: dparm
I'd stick with an approved 5w40 for now. Monitor it for the next change interval and see how it does.
Some readily available 502/505 approved oils:
Mobil 1 0w40
Valvoline SynPower 5w40
Castrol Edge 5w40
Castrol Edge 0w40
Castrol Edge 0w30
That's my plan. Thinking either the Mobil 1 or Rotella. This is the firt VW experience and I don't now too much about them but I was told that these 2.5l engine have tendancy to consume some oil. At this rate there is no way it would make it to 10k. It would run out of oil and blow up lol
Whatever you do, stay away from Castrol 5W40. Although that engine is not hard on oil like 2.0T, that oil is on low end quality when it comes to Euro oils.
Considering engine is either burning oil or maybe leaking, I would go with Mobil 1 since it is W40, and much better then Valvoline 5W40, and it is VW approved, unlike Rotella (which is though, a very good oil).
Not arguing with the Castrol comments, but isn't the Castrol 5w40 what VW actually recommends using?
After doing some reading about the 502.xx specs, I doesn't seem like it is as important with this engine and the fact that it is out of warranty. My easy local choices are the Mobil 1 0w40, Rotella 5w40, and Delo 400LE 5w40.
The Delo is the least expensive and I would think would do the trick. Especially since I need to do a fresh change and monitor. Saving a few bucks always helps.
Yes they use it. It is cheapest option for them!
Castrol 5W40 does not meet MB 229.5, only MB 229.3, which means it leaves much more deposits then Mobil 1 or GC or BC.
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Yes they use it. It is cheapest option for them!
Castrol 5W40 does not meet MB 229.5, only MB 229.3, which means it leaves much more deposits then M1 or GC or BC.
Not a big deal for a port injection engine. Fuel detergents is the key for the 2.5 to keep the intake valves clean.
Yes they use it. It is cheapest option for them!
Castrol 5W40 does not meet MB 229.5, only MB 229.3, which means it leaves much more deposits then M1 or GC or BC.
Not a big deal for a port injection engine. Fuel detergents is the key for the 2.5 to keep the intake valves clean.
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Off course, but why getting 5W40 when you have much better oil for the same price?
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Off course,
I know English is not your first language (it's not mine either), but the phrase you're looking for is "of course," not "off course." Not trying to poke fun. Just trying to help as I see you use this phrase often and it actually has a completely different meaning.
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/of+course
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/off+course
Off course,
I know English is not your first language (it's not mine either), but the phrase you're looking for is "of course," not "off course." Not trying to poke fun. Just trying to help as I see you use this phrase often and it actually has a completely different meaning.
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/of+course
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/off+course
edyvw
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Off course,
I know English is not your first language (it's not mine either), but the phrase you're looking for is "of course," not "off course." Not trying to poke fun. Just trying to help as I see you use this phrase often and it actually has a completely different meaning.
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/of+course
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/off+course
Lol, yeah.
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Off course,
I know English is not your first language (it's not mine either), but the phrase you're looking for is "of course," not "off course." Not trying to poke fun. Just trying to help as I see you use this phrase often and it actually has a completely different meaning.
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/of+course
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/off+course
Lol, yeah.
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