We have an engine in the shop that had a product the customer used that he called a Schaeffer engine flush. He said that a Schaeffer sales person advised him to use it to clean out his engine. Maybe I'm stupid but I can't find it. We want to know because there is some severe main and rod bearing wear in an other wise pristine engine. The bearing problem is not from the solvent but I want to know what this stuff might be. The oil used is Schaeffer 5w-40 synthetic. I don't think his sales guy is working with Schaeffer's any more. Someone here must know what this stuff is....
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perhaps he flushed with Neutra 131?
IIRC, the treat rate for a "flush" is a pint to 4+ quarts of oil, drive only until hot, then dump.
Did he fiul the crankcase with the product>?
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IIRC, the treat rate for a "flush" is a pint to 4+ quarts of oil, drive only until hot, then dump.
Did he fiul the crankcase with the product>?
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He put two pints in a 6 quart system and ran it for about 1k miles. I think it got diluted because during that 1k period it burned 3 quarts of oil which was made up at gas stops. This must be really strong stuff. I can't image running it for more than 20 minutes or so, ever. Is this product recommended as an engine flush by the maker?
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So, just to make sure we're on the same page here...
You're more or less saying that it did a good job on cleaning the engine and that the product was not the reason for the tear down and refit? I realize you said this ..but it's sorta been trumped by the way the thread panned out.
I don't use solvents in oil ...but
You're more or less saying that it did a good job on cleaning the engine and that the product was not the reason for the tear down and refit? I realize you said this ..but it's sorta been trumped by the way the thread panned out.
I don't use solvents in oil ...but
Bob once used 12oz in his Escort during a 3-5k mi OCI. 131 isn't like using Chemtool or Seafoam--Bob had pics where one solvent actually ate through a styrofoam cup, but not the neutra. I use it periodically in addition to A-Rx (not simultaneously).
I talked with someone from Schaeffer's and they do not recommend this product as an engine flush.
We probably saved the engine by having another problem that caused us to tear down. The oil would not have survived a normal interval. My point is that how can you use a product in your engine that clean the engine by attacking the oil itself? It does not make sense to use a solvent even in a 20 minute interval.
We probably saved the engine by having another problem that caused us to tear down. The oil would not have survived a normal interval. My point is that how can you use a product in your engine that clean the engine by attacking the oil itself? It does not make sense to use a solvent even in a 20 minute interval.
http://www.schaefferoil.com/datapdf/131.pdf
From the label.
"For Engine Purge"
" To gently dissolve internal varnish and carbon deposits add 1 ounce of NEUTRA for each quart of motor oil directly to crankcase."
Barkerman
"I talked with someone from Schaeffer's and they do not recommend this product as an engine flush."
Schaeffers Neutra has been successfully purging engines for decades. I would question "someone".
From the label.
"For Engine Purge"
" To gently dissolve internal varnish and carbon deposits add 1 ounce of NEUTRA for each quart of motor oil directly to crankcase."
Barkerman
"I talked with someone from Schaeffer's and they do not recommend this product as an engine flush."
Schaeffers Neutra has been successfully purging engines for decades. I would question "someone".
I have been using 6-12 oz for 500-1000 mile crankcase purge before oil change on certain vehicles for some time now. No ill effects so far. Neutra pours like a thin oil, not a watery solvent flush.
The person I talked to was a sales rep, my mistake. We have now talked to the home office and the use of Neutra is an "off label" use. The correct use of Neutra as an engine flush is listed on the data sheet, not the bottle. Neutra is a fuel additive with the suggestion that it can be used as an engine flush.
Salesrep, do you have a calculator to determine the viscosity of an oil after a does of Neutra.
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Recommended purge rate is 1 oz. per quart. The smaller bottles are 12 oz. Or in this case 24 oz. for a 6 qt. sump.
huh? I thought it would be 6 oz not 24 oz.
Recommended purge rate is 1 oz. per quart. The smaller bottles are 12 oz. Or in this case 24 oz. for a 6 qt. sump.
huh? I thought it would be 6 oz not 24 oz.
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