Title says it all. Aside from being a budget filter for shorter oci's, has anyone actually had one cause problems or had one fail tearolator style?
Has anyone actually had an OCOD cause problems?
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Originally Posted By: TinyVoices
Title says it all. Aside from being a budget filter for shorter oci's, has anyone actually had one cause problems or had one fail tearolator style?
It takes a major filter malfunction to cause problems. Proof would be the hundreds of thousands of cars that make it to 200K miles using only Iffy Lube for service.
Since you brought it up, have you ever heard of a Purolator filter with tears that ruined an engine?
Title says it all. Aside from being a budget filter for shorter oci's, has anyone actually had one cause problems or had one fail tearolator style?
It takes a major filter malfunction to cause problems. Proof would be the hundreds of thousands of cars that make it to 200K miles using only Iffy Lube for service.
Since you brought it up, have you ever heard of a Purolator filter with tears that ruined an engine?
Dad had one almost blow up. The can was all ballooned out, the center tube was crushed, and the media was badly torn, of course. Fortunately, the engine was in the engine stand and not a car so he was able to see it happen and quickly cut the ignition. He figured the oil relief in the block stuck, skyrocketing the oil pressure. I doubt the bypass in the filter itself sticking would have caused that.
This was on a 2386 aircooled VW engine.
This was on a 2386 aircooled VW engine.
In the 1980's I would buy Fram oil filters at Target, on sale, for $1.00 each. I used them exclusively. One time I had a leak after I changed my oil and filter. I thought the oil filter was not tight enough so I snugged it down and went on my merry way. The next day, after I came home from work, I found that the leak was still present. I removed the oil filter and found that the base plate was not flat; therefore, the seal was not fully seated. The oil filter was not damaged so it was just built not flat. All of the other oil filters in my collection were fine but one obviously left the factory defective. That was my only problem.
I put one on my moms omni back around 1990. It seperated and a piece of filter paper plugged an oil hole and burned the cam and head up.
Originally Posted By: Chris142
I put one on my moms omni back around 1990. It seperated and a piece of filter paper plugged an oil hole and burned the cam and head up.
That's an example of torn media coming loose and causing a problem.
Same thing could happen with any torn filter - even a Purolator. Lots of Purolator fan boys kept saying that torn media can't be bad and do no harm, but there's also the possibility of some of the media coming off the edges of the tear and going into the motor.
I put one on my moms omni back around 1990. It seperated and a piece of filter paper plugged an oil hole and burned the cam and head up.
That's an example of torn media coming loose and causing a problem.
Same thing could happen with any torn filter - even a Purolator. Lots of Purolator fan boys kept saying that torn media can't be bad and do no harm, but there's also the possibility of some of the media coming off the edges of the tear and going into the motor.
Not ever. They were one of the first filters I used along with Hastings back in the 70's IIRC. I used them for many years. Then later on Mobil 1 filters. In fact Bitog swung me toward Purolator which I didn't like back in the day, I won't be using them again. Now I will be using Fram Ultras exclusively.
A close friend of mine had a orange can let go on a Pontiac engine on a test stand. I assume the pressure was insane and a relief got stuck. I never knew the details but he about did a back flip when I told him I was running FRAM Ultras in everything.
Then again he puts Purolators on everything now.
Then again he puts Purolators on everything now.
Originally Posted By: PolarisX
A close friend of mine had a orange can let go on a Pontiac engine on a test stand. I assume the pressure was insane and a relief got stuck.
Almost the exact same thing as Dad.
A close friend of mine had a orange can let go on a Pontiac engine on a test stand. I assume the pressure was insane and a relief got stuck.
Almost the exact same thing as Dad.
Nope. A lot of orange cans over a lot of different cars for over more than 3 decades of use, not one problem. I use a lot of filters now but I still completely trust the orange can.
I don't see blaming the filter if the relief valve in the engine malfunctions.
I've used only a few Frams, and never had a problem with them---even the ones with media amusingly tied together with string. No serious problems with the many Purolators (including ones branded Kmart), either.
I've used only a few Frams, and never had a problem with them---even the ones with media amusingly tied together with string. No serious problems with the many Purolators (including ones branded Kmart), either.
Yeah me neither. I have never had any trouble with a Fram filter either. If I had to take a guess I have run about 60-70 Fram orange cans. Then I ran the Fram Ultra filters. I would have no compunction running the Fram orange cans or Napa silvers.
I had one have an unnoticeable 1/8" split where the can met the baseplate on an '84 Gran Fury AHB. I did the oil change as usual, started the car and saw it [censored] out in a stream. I took it off and had another one in my stash installed right afterwards.
That is the only defective one I've ever seen or encountered, including oil changes with my Dad beginning when I was a young kid in the late 70's.
We always used OCOD's until about 2003 or so then I went to TG's.
Then I found out about this place, and went to Puros. Then I found out about torn media, and went back to TG's or XG's because it makes me happy.
That is the only defective one I've ever seen or encountered, including oil changes with my Dad beginning when I was a young kid in the late 70's.
We always used OCOD's until about 2003 or so then I went to TG's.
Then I found out about this place, and went to Puros. Then I found out about torn media, and went back to TG's or XG's because it makes me happy.
Originally Posted By: CR94
I've used only a few Frams, and never had a problem with them---even the ones with media amusingly tied together with string. No serious problems with the many Purolators (including ones branded Kmart), either.
The string's only purpose is to hold the media in proper position during manufacture. After that is serves no purpose but causes no harm either, so it remains. String is also seen in older Purolators but I don't think they are currently using it either.
I've used only a few Frams, and never had a problem with them---even the ones with media amusingly tied together with string. No serious problems with the many Purolators (including ones branded Kmart), either.
The string's only purpose is to hold the media in proper position during manufacture. After that is serves no purpose but causes no harm either, so it remains. String is also seen in older Purolators but I don't think they are currently using it either.
In the past I had startup rattle on my 89 Accord due to the ADBV leaking. To be fair, though, the same thing happened with Bosch, Amsoil, and Mobil 1 filters during that time period (some time in the early 2000's). Mahle, Bosch Distance Plus, Fram Ultra, and Supertech did not have that issue.
I contacted Fram about it, actually. They asked me to send them the filter. They sent me six of their "high mileage" filters for my trouble. THEN, they shipped the used filter back to me sealed in a bag. (WTH)
I contacted Fram about it, actually. They asked me to send them the filter. They sent me six of their "high mileage" filters for my trouble. THEN, they shipped the used filter back to me sealed in a bag. (WTH)
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
... The string's only purpose is to hold the media in proper position during manufacture. After that is serves no purpose but causes no harm either, so it remains. String is also seen in older Purolators but I don't think they are currently using it either.
That purpose was obvious, but it was funny they still used such a quaint method in an age of robotic assembly. I never encountered a string in a Purolator, going back to the early or mid-70s, which is not to say they didn't use it on other models.
... The string's only purpose is to hold the media in proper position during manufacture. After that is serves no purpose but causes no harm either, so it remains. String is also seen in older Purolators but I don't think they are currently using it either.
That purpose was obvious, but it was funny they still used such a quaint method in an age of robotic assembly. I never encountered a string in a Purolator, going back to the early or mid-70s, which is not to say they didn't use it on other models.
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