Gulf Oil

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There is a lack of gas stations nearby. There is a Hess, a Shell, an Exxon Mobil (that is usually 10c more expensive than everyone else) a USA, a Gulf/Cumberland Farms, a Stewarts (New York chain gas station), and a Mobil station. For price, I always fill up at the Gulf Station, because it is usually the 2nd cheapest (after USA). Supposedly, their Fuel additive is top notch, and it is made from 100% Pennsylvania GRADE crude. I hate that. I sent them an email requesting the actual origin of their oil, since one of the reasons I have been buying it was because I hold some hope most of their crude comes from Penn State. Anyone have bad experiences with them? Our cars all run great on their gas. (the USA is crud, and hess is ok)
 
They are actually telling the truth.

America's Refinery Corp. owns the Gulf Brand. All of 'AmRef's' products - oil gas, etc....are all made from oil sourced from wells in the US Northeast - Pennsylvania, etc...

I think this is really cool, b/c when you think about it, this is the oil that started the American auto industry - the first oil wells ever were there. It's this same oil that is made into Brad-Penn and Gulf oils. It's literally what Pennzoil, Quaker State, and Gulf oils would be today if they had stayed with 100% Pennsylvania crude....
 
Originally Posted By: addyguy
They are actually telling the truth.

America's Refinery Corp. owns the Gulf Brand. All of 'AmRef's' products - oil gas, etc....are all made from oil sourced from wells in the US Northeast - Pennsylvania, etc...

I think this is really cool, b/c when you think about it, this is the oil that started the American auto industry - the first oil wells ever were there. It's this same oil that is made into Brad-Penn and Gulf oils. It's literally what Pennzoil, Quaker State, and Gulf oils would be today if they had stayed with 100% Pennsylvania crude....


But is this oil and it refined products, any better than open market crude? What properties make it better or worse? Maybe somewhere deep in Pennzoil's marketing material of the past, lies our answer. Maybe Johnny would have some access to old documents.
 
Oh, I don't really think it's better than open market crude - in fact, if you look at the specs, they are actually not as good as oils like Pennzoil, etc.. that use multi-source crude.

I just like the idea of the 'authenticity' and 'nostalgia' associated with running an oil like this!
 
FWIW, when I worked at Cumberland Farms, the gas came in a Gulf brand tanker, the invoice was from a Sunoco refimery.
 
Originally Posted By: addyguy
They are actually telling the truth.

America's Refinery Corp. owns the Gulf Brand. All of 'AmRef's' products - oil gas, etc....are all made from oil sourced from wells in the US Northeast - Pennsylvania, etc...

I think this is really cool, b/c when you think about it, this is the oil that started the American auto industry - the first oil wells ever were there. It's this same oil that is made into Brad-Penn and Gulf oils. It's literally what Pennzoil, Quaker State, and Gulf oils would be today if they had stayed with 100% Pennsylvania crude....


ARC owns one very small portion of the Gulf brand. Oil Branding in the US
Cumberland Farms owns another much larger licensing chunk. Gas Branding on the East Coast
Another arm of the former Gulf Corp was bought by Chevron and converted to their brands.
GOLP is based in MA. and bought the Gulf name in North America from Chevron and licenses the name to both ARC and Cumberland.
The offshore operations and licensing of the Gulf name are controlled and owned by Gulf Oil International, a company based in the Cayman Islands.

Who owns Gulf Oil is a very diluted issue with many twists and turns. A sad story brought to you by T Boone and his wolves.
 
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
I'm actually talking about the gasoline, but I'm considering purchasing Brad Penn oil next time perhaps. I dunno yet.


Fuel is generic. It's in many pipelines. Back in the 70's BP entered an agreement with Sun Oil. BP handled Sunoco stations (blended to their spec's) on the west coast ..and Sun handled BP's interests on the East Coast. That was back when there were still plenty of "brands" and terminals.

I doubt any fuel of any substantial amount is from PA grade crude. It was always a preferred motor oil crude.
 
American Refining sells only motor oil licensed under the Gulf Tradmark.

Cumberland Farms licenses the Gulf gasoline trademark from Chevron. CF buys fungible gasoline from many sources, but refines/produces nothing. Their branded "Advent 21" additive package probably "meets" EPA standards.

Due to anti-trust regulations with the Exxon/Mobil merger, many Exxon stations in the north east have been converted to Gulf franchises.
 
Gulf Oil Limited Partnership(GOLP) licenses the Gulf name to both Cumberland and American Refining.

GOLP bought the rights to the Gulf name in America from Chevron.

Chevron doesn't own Gulf or any of it's trademarks at this point.

They did keep a large number of their former stations and convert them to their own brands. But Chevron was forced to divest itself of it's Gulf stations on the East Coast. I think BP and/or Marathon bought a lot of those sites iirc.

The foreign trademark rights are held by Gulf Oil International a company based in the Cayman Islands.
 
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