How about you research bunch of same topics here and then ask specific question that maybe, just maybe, wasn’t addressed?can anyone list all group iv base oil , are group IV oil better than group III ? how ? educate me
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How about you research bunch of same topics here and then ask specific question that maybe, just maybe, wasn’t addressed?can anyone list all group iv base oil , are group IV oil better than group III ? how ? educate me
tough guyHow about you research bunch of same topics here and then ask specific question that maybe, just maybe, wasn’t addressed?
@edyvw is right, though.tough guy
I am.tough guy
I do not get it, what am I missing?
Lol. He uses redline as salad dressing.benjy has some, ummm, strong opinions on group III vs group IV
How many times has this been posted?
Group III will almost always produce a higher HTHS result than PAO, which is why A3/B4 5W-30 oils will be group III to achieve the ≥3.5 cP HTHS.
...and will be posted many more times to come. Have you did a search for this topic on here? The chaos (and bickering) of results can be a bit daunting for someone new to this niche of science. I speak from experience. We were all new here once.
Some have been new many times.
Think of Group III as the bridge between group II and IV. It has many of the good attributes of group II conventional such as additive response and solubility while also having some of the good attributes of group IV such as pressure-viscosity coefficient, shear stability, and low volatility. You get the best of both worlds without having to blend multiple base oil groups together and dealing with compromises. Group III can't hold a light to PAO's cold temperature flow, but if you're never cranking an engine in sub-zero temperatures, that doesn't really matter. Group III will almost always produce a higher HTHS result than PAO, which is why A3/B4 5W-30 oils will be group III to achieve the ≥3.5 cP HTHS.
At the end of the day, note that the base oil is just one part of a completed oil formula. A high quality base oil with a junk additive package is still a junk engine oil. Unless you're a formulator (or just have no life... like me), focus less on what an oil is and more on what an oil does.
...and will be posted many more times to come. Have you did a search for this topic on here? The chaos (and bickering) of results can be a bit daunting for someone new to this niche of science. I speak from experience. We were all new here once.
We have posters like that here too, although it depends on if they have bad days or not (it seems.)I used to admin a local car forum. We had someone we called "the Drama Llama" because he would rage anytime somebody disagreed with him or posted anything he didn't like, and do so in quite spectacular form. He also talked a lot about the llamas on his family farm, hence the nickname. He'd get banned, create a new account, get banned again, and so on. I eventually reinstated his original account but with a picture of a goofy looking llama as his avatar and his username changed to Drama Llama. Every time he'd make a rude comment, we'd go in and change his comment to a nursery rhyme we made up.
"I'm a little drama llama, woe be unto you.
Why I'm temperamental, I haven't a clue.
I start a bunch of drama, no feeling withdrawn.
All the admins here just want me f****** gone!"
There was more to it, but that's all I remember. He eventually left for good.
We have posters like that here too, although it depends on if they have bad days or not (it seems.)
It is also not possible to be new more than once.
When asking a question about base oils and getting posts about posters and "Well I wonder if the search function was used" seems pretty unhelpful. I still think you have a great answer about how Group 3 is a bridge between Group 2 and 4, that should be pinned somewhere.
Just my two cents here. And I think this topic (more than others?) brings out some that want to wax sanctimonious about base oil this and that, like it is some kind of cardinal sin to get it even the least bit wrong. Perfection is demanded?
Paging @High Performance Lubricants if he would like to participate. Can learn a lot from him.
(By the way, on lesser forums they call that a "Rage quit." This forum has EVERY forum on the Internet beat. Just sayin.)
Great posit, @RDY4WAR !!
There’s not a GTL I would trip over to buy a Grp IV/V oil; I’m a PP/PUP fan that has also bought Ravenol/HPL/Amsoil/Redline… and my vehicles are thoroughly exposed in 35+ mph winds in the winter plus the ambient.We have posters like that here too, although it depends on if they have bad days or not (it seems.)
It is also not possible to be new more than once.
When asking a question about base oils and getting posts about posters and "Well I wonder if the search function was used" seems pretty unhelpful. I still think you have a great answer about how Group 3 is a bridge between Group 2 and 4, that should be pinned somewhere.
Just my two cents here. And I think this topic (more than others?) brings out some that want to wax sanctimonious about base oil this and that, like it is some kind of cardinal sin to get it even the least bit wrong. Perfection is demanded?
Paging @High Performance Lubricants if he would like to participate. Can learn a lot from him.
(By the way, on lesser forums they call that a "Rage quit." This forum has EVERY forum on the Internet beat. Just sayin.)
Great posit, @RDY4WAR !!
You mean this:I was thinking of putting one of those "Here, let me Google that for you" links in. But it seems like pointless work...