Group III for GF-4

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I'll be signing-off for a while........... there's deer to be bowhunted starting tommorrow in this brush country.
 
Carpy,

Go get 'em. I'll be out there myself chasing Bambi before soon also.
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Stay in touch.

Dan
 
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Now if you want something that lasts a little longer, than look for an A-3 ACEA spec. If you want something that runs a little cleaner, look for a Diesel CH-4/ CI-4 spec.

...or if you want both, you could use Delo, it meets A3 & CH-4/CI-4.
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Not to thread hijack, but I think carpy makes the point of not hair-splitting on oil selections. To me, proper oil maintenance is what's most important. Shure, figure out what spec/weight/basestock/cost is best for your application but then simply practice common sense service and your'e done. Myself, I come to BitOG because it's almost impossible to find anyone around who shares this as a hobby. I find some of the smartest people on the internet here, who have crafty ways of looking at the lube industry, a thing that most mortals have no clue of. I consider myself more of an oil snob than an OCD sufferer.
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Hmm...such interesting news on the new GF-4 Mobil Drive Clean, but we really should pause for a moment to settle an “accounting” issue:

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If anyone believes Exxon/Mobil out of the kindness of their heart their gonna give you group 3 base stock in $1.17 a quart oil, You are ready for the looney bin! This product probably will be group 2 stock and that's about the best it's going to be!

OK, Oil Expert, it’s eating time & we will give you a choice of “menu options”:

How about a succulent plate of Hat, Au Jus?

Or the very tasty, Oven Roasted Crow, with a smidge of barbeque sauce - I’m told it’s quite similar to buffalo wings!

Either dish will be served with a side of sour grapes. Bon Appetite!!!
 
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Originally posted by Audi Junkie:

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Now if you want something that lasts a little longer, than look for an A-3 ACEA spec. If you want something that runs a little cleaner, look for a Diesel CH-4/ CI-4 spec.

...or if you want both, you could use Delo, it meets A3 & CH-4/CI-4.
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For the sake of clarification, Delo 400 is not A3, it is ACEA E3 and E5. I was not able to find any HDEO with A3 ACEA certification. Unlike
in US, these oils are not considered universal in Europe, I guess.
 
Carpy,really glad to see you back.

I am very much anticipating getting the GF-4 Mobil DC in my area.I have been checking but so far it is all old stock.

Thanks for all of the info.
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Motorguy, I don't know what part of the Bluegrass you live in, but I live in Jeffersonville, In. which is right across the river from Louisville. The Walmart by me has had Mobil Drive Clean in GF-4 for several weeks now. It still says SL in the donut but refers to GF-4 on the label. $1.17.If you're not too far from there it's probably in the Louisville stores. If that helps any.
 
Audi,

In Chevron's PDF, it makes no mention of that spec A3. Is A3 assumed to be contained in another, more robust specification? BTW...What does the A3 spec mean???
 
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Audi,

In Chevron's PDF, it makes no mention of that spec A3. Is A3 assumed to be contained in another, more robust specification? BTW...What does the A3 spec mean???


A3 is an extended drain ACEA automotive spec in Europe. It is not contained in any other spec. And Chevron Delo 400 is NOT A3 rated. According to the ChevronTexaco web site, it is E5 rated, which is the ACEA diesel truck oil spec in Europe.
 
I notice the pour point for Delo is -23f. What is the down side to using this in an engine that calls for 5W30? From everything I have been able to find my 2.7L Chrysler 24V DOHC is brutal on oil. This seems like a good choice especially in the summer. Or is it too thick?
 
Jelly,
Thanks for the PDF. You're using your hosting well! I appreciate all your hard work, no matter what Gary Allen says about you.
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GMan,
No matter how much I think I know, I'm always learning more here. Seems like one can never run out of things to learn in the lubrication field.

Farrarfan,
Delo would be just fine in the summer. Your car will crank over in winter, but it might be tough on the coldest of days. Pennzoil's Long Life and Amsoil's 15w40 Blend offer a pour point of -33 for that added winter protection. EDIT: It's only 2 degrees C more protection. I doubt it will make any difference in real-world useage whatsoever. Sorry for the hair-splitting here!
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[ October 09, 2004, 10:06 PM: Message edited by: ToyotaNSaturn ]
 
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Originally posted by Audi Junkie:
Am I the only one reading the bottles? Like I said, Delo is A3-rated.

Junkie,

No, you're not the only one reading the bottles.

Let me try this one more time: DELO 400 DOES NOT HAVE ACEA A3 APPROVAL!

Why don't you understand this? Just trying to argue, or do you think Chevron is lying to us?
 
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