Great clenaer for 2 strokes

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I think I found the missing link for helping to clean gum and sticky rings on a 2 stroke---> AeroKroil a 10 second blast in the gas tank and viola!
What do you think?
 
What type of oil have you been using, and what engine are we talking about. I have never had sticky rings on a 2-stroke in over 35 years...
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BLU-this was a recycling center find-It was hanging on the side of the dumpster-so I figured someone put it there because it Stihl worked--it does run, after I leaned out the hi-speed jet almost as far as it would go--it ran SO much better after AeroKroiling it, I figures I'd pass the experience along.....

I have about 6 quarts of the Mobil 2T left-so that's what I've been using the last 2 years-almost zero smoke
 
Originally Posted By: steve20
BLU-this was a recycling center find-It was hanging on the side of the dumpster-so I figured someone put it there because it Stihl worked--it does run, after I leaned out the hi-speed jet almost as far as it would go--it ran SO much better after AeroKroiling it, I figures I'd pass the experience along.....

I have about 6 quarts of the Mobil 2T left-so that's what I've been using the last 2 years-almost zero smoke


Unless you took the engine apart and visually observed the rings being stuck/gummed up, you have no way to confirm that the elixir you used did anything. The carb adjustment probably played more of a role in getting the engine running better than the fuel additive.

It isn't wise to make unfounded statements attesting to the effectiveness of a product unless it's done something close to scientifically.

I too have been running two stroke equipment for over 35 years and never had sticky rings on anything that I owned and operated.

However, I did buy a severely abused 1974 RD400 two cycle motorcycle a few years ago that had carboned up rings. I established that by taking the engine apart.
 
sorry to offend everyone-just passing along what worked for me---the mixture adjustment was done before the AeroKroil. If you don't like the idea, please, don't try it

"""It isn't wise to make unfounded statements attesting to the effectiveness of a product unless it's done something close to scientifically."""

Do you realize over 95% of the post made on this board lack scientific proof?? Perhaps you should start policing the rest of the forums on this board, unless your knowledge is limited to this section of the site
 
Originally Posted By: DaHen
I also got an old two cycle tiller running by using Aerokroil.
Did it work? Yes.
How? Don't care. It just worked.


Did it cure carboned/sticky rings?

When I took the old Yamaha engine apart, I kept the old pistons. A year or so later, on another forum there was a debate on the effectiveness of fuel additives. One participant took a carboned up piston and soaked it for days in SeaFoam. He took pictures of before and after. The results of soaking it? No change.

At that time, I, as many other do, was using SeaFoam, MMO regularly. I was so impressed with everyone else' "success stories" that I was buying multiple cans of it from the USA because SeaFoam was selling for around $14.00/can up here and MMO virtually impossible to find.

When I read the above person's account of his trials with SeaFoam, I did my own tests with Seafoam and MMO. I put enough Seafoam in a tin can to immerse the piston past the rings. Did the same with MMO.

Results? Same as the first guy. Even after a week of soaking the pistons in full concentration, neither product did anything whatsoever to release the carbon from the ring grooves. I learned a very good lesson there and have since put my money to better use.

Those who are willing to challenge their beliefs in their elixirs of choice should conduct similar tests of their own. Please, do post your results.

Having the willingness to challenge hearsay and establishing the facts is something that we all must elevate ourselves to. Continuation of unsupported and unproven claims does nothing for anyone looking for good advice.

We participate in these forums to seek or extend knowledge and experience. No one benefits from misleading or unsubstantiated hearsay.
 
Boraticus, you're sure one to talk about spreading unsubstantiated/false information LOL Just a few weeks ago you were telling everyone that the engine determined the oil ratio in a two stroke, when in fact it's the oil that determines the ratio. That really cracked me up
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You keep telling us again and again that you have "35 years of running my own two cycle equipment". That might mean something if you knew what you were talking about, but you don't, so stop repeating yourself already, it really is annoying.
 
Originally Posted By: hate2work

Boraticus, you're sure one to talk about spreading unsubstantiated/false information LOL Just a few weeks ago you were telling everyone that the engine determined the oil ratio in a two stroke, when in fact it's the oil that determines the ratio. That really cracked me up
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You keep telling us again and again that you have "35 years of running my own two cycle equipment". That might mean something if you knew what you were talking about, but you don't, so stop repeating yourself already, it really is annoying.


It's obviously apparent that in your case the truth hurts.

It's abundantly clear that you prefer hearsay and rumor over facts and reality.

Your claims regarding two cycle oil are incorrect. If in fact what you say about two cycle oil was correct, the manufacturer would indicate in their engine manuals to follow oil manufacturer's mixing ratio instructions. However, they don't. Therefore, you're off base. The engine manufacturers determine and instruct at what ratio to mix oil.
 
"The fact that the oil determines the ratio comes straight from the likes of Don Schaeffer of Homelite, Randy Scully of Stihl, and Bob McCulluch himself."

So, what you're saying is that all of the two cycle engine manufacturers must retract or withdraw their oil mixing instructions from their manuals because oil manufacturers instructions supersedes the engine manufacturers instructions?
 
Sounds like someone likes to give their two cents but doesn't want anyones else's. Bob is the Oil guy is a forum to people to talk about oil related subjects, doesn't say anything about you have ot have scientific evidence. Most of it is personal opinion and experience.
 
Originally Posted By: chevman4life
Sounds like someone likes to give their two cents but doesn't want anyones else's. Bob is the Oil guy is a forum to people to talk about oil related subjects, doesn't say anything about you have ot have scientific evidence. Most of it is personal opinion and experience.


Not at all. I'm open to opinions however, when one claims that a product performed a minor miracle, I think it's only fair to have the claim substantiated.

Did the OP open up the engine to see if the rings were carboned up? Was a compression test performed before and after the application of the elixir?

I know from first hand experience, and I'm certain that there are other seasoned participants who will agree, that coked up rings will NOT be cured by any fuel additive.

Without tearing the engine apart and physically inspecting the condition of the rings before and after, suggesting that product "A" will clean the carbon out, is simply misleading.
 
Originally Posted By: boraticus
Originally Posted By: chevman4life
Sounds like someone likes to give their two cents but doesn't want anyones else's. Bob is the Oil guy is a forum to people to talk about oil related subjects, doesn't say anything about you have ot have scientific evidence. Most of it is personal opinion and experience.


Not at all. I'm open to opinions however, when one claims that a product performed a minor miracle, I think it's only fair to have the claim substantiated.

Did the OP open up the engine to see if the rings were carboned up? Was a compression test performed before and after the application of the elixir?

I know from first hand experience, and I'm certain that there are other seasoned participants who will agree, that coked up rings will NOT be cured by any fuel additive.

Without tearing the engine apart and physically inspecting the condition of the rings before and after, suggesting that product "A" will clean the carbon out, is simply misleading.



I'm not saying your test are flawed.....but do you think there is a chance that real world heat,pressure,etc that are a part of a running engine could allow the chemicals to act differently than they did on a test bench? People have always claimed water will remove some carbon build-up but I assume if you soaked a piston in a cup of water you would not see much cleaning.

I don't know about this use but I can say that after 15 years as a maintenance electrician at Delphi and using that kroil oil on everything,it is simply amazing.
It will clean almost anything and no other penetrating oil I have used even comes close. We tried everything there and it was the best.
 
thanks for the support guys-just trying to pass on what worked for me on a late Saturday afternoon-that you may be able to use on a late Saturday afternoon of your own in the future
 
Originally Posted By: chevman4life
Bob is the Oil guy is a forum to people to talk about oil related subjects, doesn't say anything about you have ot have scientific evidence. Most of it is personal opinion and experience.


I beg to differ: afterall: I worked very hard to acquire/obtain as close to the truth in terms of information as possible, not just some stoopid unproven hearsays from who-knows who.

Been a certified mech (no longer practicing, don't need to sweat over public customers who treat you like scarmbags and so on) for over 2 decades and frankly am sick and tired of all the unproven subjective opinions and observations. I'm all for the real thing, with research-grade test results (repeatable) to prove. So don't sell me on some stoddard solvent formula as UCL (I pretty much dispute/doubt UCL's effectiveness in modern engines right from the beginning anyways).

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You can't really compare Seafoam and MMO to Kreen products. I've used MMO since childhood and Kreen is light years superior if you're trying to clean out a dirty engine.

We're talking on a public forum. Expect opinion.

Better get used to it.
 
Originally Posted By: Quest
Originally Posted By: chevman4life
Bob is the Oil guy is a forum to people to talk about oil related subjects, doesn't say anything about you have ot have scientific evidence. Most of it is personal opinion and experience.


I beg to differ: afterall: I worked very hard to acquire/obtain as close to the truth in terms of information as possible, not just some stoopid unproven hearsays from who-knows who.

Been a certified mech (no longer practicing, don't need to sweat over public customers who treat you like scarmbags and so on) for over 2 decades and frankly am sick and tired of all the unproven subjective opinions and observations. I'm all for the real thing, with research-grade test results (repeatable) to prove. So don't sell me on some stoddard solvent formula as UCL (I pretty much dispute/doubt UCL's effectiveness in modern engines right from the beginning anyways).

Q.


Well you are in the wrong place. Everyone wants the REAL THING and as much as I would love for people to only post after they have run a repeatable documented test,it's just not going to happen. Surely you realize that 99% of the post on this board do not meat your standard. So you must not be too sick and tired. The OP may not know what the kroil did to make his engine run better,but he knows it did something.
You may be happier just going to manufacturers and lab websites and reading white papers. As much as you hate it people will continue to post stuff here that does not meet your standard. I laugh every time someone post they can FEEL a power difference after switching oil but I'm not going to post in their thread putting them down to show I know more. I have the confidence that Most people here can sort through the the bull.
 
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For years I've been decarboning parts, sometimes taking them to work where I have all kinds of solvents and ultrasonics. Some of the stuff melts away, like the buildup on carburators and throttle bodies. Some of the nasty stuff that involves high temperatures, like combustion chamber deposits and some EGR applications, will not be removed by ANY solvent. My last line of attack is methylene chloride, which attacks anything. But it won't remove the hardened carbon deposits in a combustion chamber. That can only be removed by mechanical methods.
 
Although I ussually agree with Boraticus, I will have to say I had good luck on a highly carboned two stroke and Sea Foam, doing a piston soak. I have done the same soak methods as him and have had Sea Foam work on disolving carbon. I would like to get hold of some of this Areokroil stuff and try it out. I apprieate any onservations or tests done by members. If it works I like to know. There are so many gimmicks out there.
 
Maybe the U.S. SeaFoam is a stronger formula that what we get here?

Then again, I've read accounts of others in the U.S. who got the same ineffective results as me. It might be a decent fuel stabilizer, however, it's certainly not a panacea for too many mechanical ailments I've come across.
 
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