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It's all part of the reason why cattle that can't walk aren't fed into our food chain. They don't run the full gammut of pathology on an animal about to have it's brain stem shattered.

Why is it against the law for a farmer to have his own cattle tested, rather than the random, one in a million testing ?
 
I watched the video and really think that those pictures were portrayed. Cows lay down and they are not easy to get up, they are not like horses, that stand all the time, cows do lay down, you will see the healthiest cows at the fair laying down. It looked to me like they could have just been in a hurry, poking these cows to get them up and rushing them with the fork lift. They want to slaughter as many as they can fast. For any of you that frown on animal cruelity, hope you never visit a private farm, they hook the chains around the back legs and pick the cow up with a frontend loader and cut its throat, alot of screaming going on. Beef is what it is "FOOD", hope you dont come back as a cow, if you do better haul A for India. P.S Make sure you stick around at the farm to watch them pull the horns out of the live cows head.
 
When Mori first posted on this subject I mentiuoned that son-in-law is a USDA inspector. Asked him about this particular incident last nite and he said it'd be ok to post his view here.

As follows;

There are humane handling regulations that are a part of the Federal Meat Inspection Act that each plant must adhere to, but as you probably know if you aren't in constant surveillance of your subordinates inappropriate conduct can and will happen.
Ante-mortem inspection is performed by the USDA vet, which consists of the vet standing on a catwalk observing the cows as their moved into the holding pens, the vet is looking for anything that is abnormal in any of the animals such as the cow having trouble standing or walking or showing some other signs that it isn't healthy and worthy of a more thorough inspection by the vet.
When a cow becomes "non-ambulatory" after the vet has passed the lot for slaughter then plant personnel are to notify the vet immediately that there is a "downer" cow in the pens. The plant is then supposed to bring in a forklift and gingerly lift the sick cow onto a large pallet or something that's used to transport the cow to an area designated for such animals. The vet then comes back and does a thorough disposition of the sick cow and makes a decision on rather the cow can be slaughtered or be destroyed without ever making it into the plant. If the vet decides to let the plant slaughter the cow then the plant personnel take steps to ensure that after slaughter and after post-mortem inspection is done by USDA line inspectors(like me) that the carcass is quarantined with it's viscera, head & tongue so that the vet can do another disposition on the cow after it's been slaughtered, de-hided, gutted, and split in half.
This plant apparently wasn't notifying the vet after a cow became non-ambulatory and severely mishandled the cows and then processed them without the vet doing his more in depth inspection. BSE, or mad cow disease along with other diseases can only be tested for in a lab with microscopes and other testing and can't be diagnosed by a line inspector like myself. One of the symptoms of BSE is a cow that can't stand up or is acting in a strange way. Sometimes these animals don't show any outward signs that their ill until after the vet has looked at them and they fall out later. The plant HAS to call the vet to look at any cow that has shown signs of being sick. This plant wasn't doing that.
I can't speak for the plant in question, but at DELETED here in DELETED, which probably slaughters more cows than any other facility in the country, a cow showing signs that he might be sick after one of our vets has performed his ante-mortem inspection is a rare occurrence.
However, erring on the side of caution is what the USDA has done since this plant processed cows that needed to be more thoroughly inspected and weren't. The video captured by PETA was what uncovered this and what brought this violation of federal law to the attention of the Food Safety Inspection Service of the USDA.
I doubt that anyone would become sick from eating meat from this plant, but rules is rules and a recall had to be done. Most of the meat has been consumed already. E-Coli is more a food safety threat than anything IMO.



Hope this is informative to some.

Best,

Bob
 
Originally Posted By: Panzerman
I watched the video and really think that those pictures were portrayed. Cows lay down and they are not easy to get up, they are not like horses, that stand all the time, cows do lay down, you will see the healthiest cows at the fair laying down. It looked to me like they could have just been in a hurry, poking these cows to get them up and rushing them with the fork lift. They want to slaughter as many as they can fast. For any of you that frown on animal cruelity, hope you never visit a private farm, they hook the chains around the back legs and pick the cow up with a frontend loader and cut its throat, alot of screaming going on. Beef is what it is "FOOD", hope you dont come back as a cow, if you do better haul A for India. P.S Make sure you stick around at the farm to watch them pull the horns out of the live cows head.


My family owns a private farm with 30+ head. Only a very sick animal will remain lying down when a forklift comes near. Good luck getting near any of my cows with a tractor, a Mule ..or even on foot if she's lying down. These animals are very ill when the are no longer able to stand up. And what they're doing is not a humane way of handling the situation. There are better ways to do it, they were just too lazy and stupid to do it correctly. It's no mystery that these animals are meeting their fate at facilities like that, but they should still be treated humanely until that eventuality comes.

Cattle feel pain and stress the same way human beings do and I doubt any person would take kindly to being rammed with machinery when they're unable to get up under their own power. The one reason I couldn't work in the meat packing industry: I'd have taken a tire iron to anyone I witnessed doing that to an animal.
 
CBDF, how do you guys slaughter your cows or do you slaughter them? i know the good ole boys around here (private pig farms) use a spike, .22 rifle or cut throats... they like to use the quicker ways bc they believe that if an animal feels great pain before death they release something inside and taints the meat. they also think its bad ju-ju lol
 
That's certainly true with respect to swine, if they're made anxious before they meet their fate, the meat can be compromised. The industry term (when I was an undergraduate in agriculture school) to describe the compromised meat was PSE (pale, soft, and exudative) and most consumers would not be interested in purchasing it because of it's low quality.

I didn't watch the video, but slaugterhouses are a pretty grisly place - you would have to be pretty desensitized to work in one.
 
Most farmers I know, wont butcher their own cows, they send them away, they do grow a sedimental attachment to them. You gotta figure though these people that work at a plant arent, they are there to process meat, bottom line without regards to the cows feelings about it.
 
"Now it's time to visit the killing floor!"

"The... k-killing floor?"

"Now don't let the name fool you, Timmy. It's not actually a floor! It's more like a grating to let the parts sluice through!"

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Originally Posted By: mikeg5
CBDF, how do you guys slaughter your cows or do you slaughter them? i know the good ole boys around here (private pig farms) use a spike, .22 rifle or cut throats... they like to use the quicker ways bc they believe that if an animal feels great pain before death they release something inside and taints the meat. they also think its bad ju-ju lol


We definitely don't slaughter. Goats and cattle are taken to the sale and chickens live out their lives there. Here I am on a sweltering summer day taking the girls their afternoon snack. They're the most spoiled rotten cows you'd ever want to meet, but they always look well taken care of and bring high prices at the sale. A rattle of that bucket brings them all running from the back of the pasture. It's fun, but don't let them pin you against a fence wanting food...it gets ugly. :-)
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