It takes a lot of cleaning to use methane gas from landfill to burn in a turbine or piston engine. I would hardly say the benefit is no DEF or DPF to clean. If you just use it to boil water to make steam sure but most of the efficiency today burning NG is from turbine in power plant.
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IMSC has 10 nations now.
The point was, we're bankrupting our country protecting the world's consumers.
If not this, where else do we cut? The answer seems to be 'medicare' from our nation's leaders, along with tax cuts to just throw more gas on the fire.
We recommend austerity to other countries to overcome financial challenges, we never practice what we preach.
Anyway....moving on....
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You said we have our own oil - However, we are free trade. Unless you nationalize and hand it over to those who piled up this massive debt …
Yep, moving on …
It does not matter because at the present time because it's not happening yet. Right? Maybe in the future, maybe not.
What is happening right now is they are putting the squeeze on the USA and will control the battery market for quite some time until they dont. Also if its not them it does not mean it will be us but it doesn't matter because its not reality yet.
BEVs will never overtake gasoline until a technology can recharge as fast as gasoline and be as inexpensive as gasoline and be as readily available as gasoline and have the power plants to support BEVs. Right now EVs at less then 2% of market saturation is a niche product, so I think we have a long way to go at this point.
This was all in the context of imports and exports with someone saying oil is cheap because we spend military money protecting it... and yeah? What else in this world in regards to EVs if they ever become popular... Things can change there too. Electricity is subsidized I would guess more than military in the USA... but I didnt bring up that subject, someone else did. It was a silly post I think.
Who has the crystal ball, nothing is real until it is. The reality is right now.
(I think you know I have nothing against EVs) Im just talking the way I see things. So far I ahve been proven right in the USA. BEVs have flopped at least in the sense of the wild projections of just a couple years ago, if that long ago. I can see a market saturation with present technology of 30% in the coming two decades.
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I don't think it's the batteries where rare earths are the problem, right? Because both cobalt and lithium aren't rare earth elements. It's neodymium that's the main rare earth that we think of when we think EV's, and that's used in electric motors.
I know there's been a push to find a replacement for cobalt, but lithium-based chemistries are dominant for batteries because of the energy density advantage they have, and it's the lithium (and cobalt) mining where China owns a large part of the supply chain that is a problem.
Ontario has an abundance of rare earths in the "ring of fire" but so far, other than talk, there hasn't been any real effort to bring them to market.
This is all false but you're going into politics. Medicare for Americans is the greatest system that works. Nothing has been cut for me. I wonder if you are in the system? I would be surprised if you are, so I think, and I am saying this nicely, not being mean but you are drinking the media cool-aid.
For the last 12 months I went through cancer treatments - radiation and drugs. As a taxpaying American my out of pocket cost was less than $2000 including with the best medical treatment in the world. A drug that was paid from the plan that cost $14,000 Never mind the retail cost of radiation in the 10's of thousands or the panel of specialist doctors I had access to, cost free in a nationally recognized cancer center.
My actual insurance payments was $4000 for the year - $185 x 12 =$2,220. Plus I bought a supplimental plan N just in case for $1,740. Did I really need it> No but it saved me maybe $2,300.
Before that and most likely again next year I will go to an advantage plan and pay nothing but the government cost of $185 a month, includes medical, dentist, eye care, contact lens, over the counter items, $0 co pay for primary $5 copay for specialists. No gate keeper, no referrals needed. No deductible with low co-pays and annual limit of what you pay out of pocket of $3,500/ for all the most severe medical treatment you could need.
We are bankrupting our country because the voters want an easy life. Who turned down the covid checks? Who turned down the $7,500 to buy an EV or $4,000 to buy a use one. The list goes on. It's not other countries.
Oil is cheap, not sure why it needs to be lowered. It's at or below the inflation rate for the last 40 or 50 years. Your taxes in CA are high, not the gasoline.
You bring up the costs for national defense all the time when it comes to oil. Makes no sense at all.
It's all speculation forgetting about here the oil we export. Forgetting about alternative energy sources to generate electricity to charge electric cars and related costs. Forgetting about the rare elements we need to make BEV batteries of which our arch enemy China controls. You do know the war they are conducting against us on that right?
Forgetting about every device in your home contains materials made from oil. (Only 19 gallons of a 42 barrel of oil is used for gasoline) Meanwhile ignoring the massive costs to the US consumer to switch to BEVs. Who is going to pay for the power and grid upgrades if we ever get from 2% of the BEVs on the road right now to 40%? Who currently subsidizes the construction of power plants and grid updates?
Really now, lets look at the cost of the product at the pump or charger... and I can bet you, a BEV world of 300 million vehicles will be much more costly to the USA consumer by getting rid of oil.
By the way, the USA is one of the top 3 exporters of oil in the world. Helping to cut our insane trade imbalance. https://www.worldstopexports.com/worlds-top-oil-exports-country/
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Interesting link.
From the same link - the next two categories below the export category tell the rest of the story.
The next category is - countries with the largest surpluses - the US is not on that list.
The next category is - countries with the largest oil deficits - We are the #5 country WW from an oil deficit standpoint.
Read up on the Mirai fuel costs. In many cases it's higher than gas and nobody wants the car off lease.
Yea, $15-20K for a car that was $50-60K seems like a steal… until you’re getting hit by $200+ at the H2 filling station. And it’s 1/10th(or really 1/6th) the cost to gas up a Prius or Camry Hybrid with regular unleaded.
I'm not sure that the cuts to Medicare in the BBB have materialized as of yet. I hope for your sake, my parents sake and my future sake that you are right and it's much ado about nothing.
And I hope your cancer treatments are going well.
Lost my wife to breast cancer almost 10 years ago. I'm happily remarried now but the scar of that experience will probably never heal. Life is precious.
Wow, sorry to hear that. My wife is now breast cancer free for over a decade. Im actually helping one of her old college friends whom I never met, navigate the prostate cancer thing. He just found out. He has been so appreciative. Im not giving medical advice. I am giving him information so he can have an intelligent conversation with his doctor. It's a good feeling, Im over whelmed on how thankful he is. I might someday find an avenue to help others in the situation. I learned so much.
With the Medicare stuff. Many dont know a huge part of the "cut" isnt a cut. During Covid non USA citizens through legislation were given free health insurance, completely free _ Medicaid at the time we were battling the onslaught of Covid. It was and is designed to expire the end of 2025 that was passed by our representatives. Well that time has come however as you know with government, all of a sudden they want to cancel the expiration and continue free health care. So they are calling this cutting instead of leaving the law as it was.This is how our budget gets blown out. There are also other things that have been ignored such as "able workers" But no politics intended here. Just a comment on government not political parties.
Yeah, Im doing ok. This friend I have been helping, met with his doctor yesterday. I educated hime about PSMA Pet Scans and he complied a list of questions for him. The conversation worked out well for him. Cancer sucks. I am still a little rocked. I guess I forgot but I just pulled up my PSMA PET scan to give him an idea of what the results look like and decided not to send it. Good news for me is it did not show any spread. But there is always that 10% margin of error though I believe it to me correct. I am reminded why I was labeled "intermediate risk - unfavorable outcome."
My SUV on the PSMA SCAN was a 18. I revisted that with a simple search SUV of 18 on PSMA Pet Scan and it indicates an aggressive prostate cancer. SO we caught it in time, it shows no spread, hopefully but I dont think we would have if I wasnt CONSTANTLY pushing my urologist for another biopsy.
I'll end this here... know it has nothing to do with H2!!!
There must be a big difference in Medicare in NC vs. NY. I was informed that my Cigna Advantage plan is no more in NY come 2026. The best choice for me is now Aetna, I had them two years ago. My max out of pocket cost is now going to $13,900/year from IIRC $6,500. Specialist co-pay is up $10, and I think we have to pay $5 for blood work, which was free. OTC benefits went from $90/qtr to ZERO. Dental went from $2,200 a year coverage [cleanings exams, caps, crowns, root canals, etc.] to two cleanings and exams a year, anything they find wrong I pay for now. Those are just a few of the tweaks, there are many more no of which are better than before. I don't want to get into Politics my insurance rep spelled it out, she said by 2027 things "might improve." I'm talking Medicare Advantage plans. Many are pulling out of NY. I think the end game for the system is for us to die poor.
Hydrogen is such a bad idea. The energy calculation doesn't work for now.
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Supporting others in the same boat is everything. It's so confusing navigating treatment at times. Having a helping hand can really make the difference. We were helped so much by others. Good on you for helping.
There is a big difference. I checked my old ZIP Code in Nassau County New York all the time against where I live now. It only makes sense costs are so much lower in the southeast, and that also translates to the medical community and ultimately into your health insurance cost
But I’m pretty good at finding stuff even here many plans have been discontinued over the last two years. The good news is if your plan is discontinued if you want, you can go to Medigap plan G or plan G high deductible or plan N
Last year I had Aetna advantage plan. It was a cool plan it even bought my Apple Watch and two Pickleball paddles.
needless to say it cost them too much money and they discontinued it. At the same time toward the end of that year, I had a cancer diagnosis so it really was in a way of saving grace because I was able to go into Medigap. So I chose Plan N for this year. Get this my drug plan D was zero cost to me this year and they paid $14,000 for my medication.However, next year 2026 I’m definitely going back to an advantage plan and I have three that I have saved right now on my computer
One is from Humana with a $3500 out-of-pocket limit and no deductible of course
The other is a newer company who’s been expanding in the United States and I forgot the name right now, but same deal only slightly higher out-of-pocket of maybe 5000 which by the way is impossible to hit, but that’s besides the point. They will pay me $100 every three months for over-the-counter medical supplies they will pay me $170 towards the purchase of any fitness devices including an Apple Watch and up to $2500 for dentists. Oh and $300 for new contact lenses.
Last but not least is our own North Carolina Blue Cross with some really straightforward deals in between those two plans above. Up in the northeast you have the choice to go from advantage back to Medigap but you don’t have that in much of the country including here yet Blue Cross here will allow you to go back-and-forth between their plans.
I’m gonna start a thread on this sometime in the next week with some luck
Since you’ve been there, you know. I really can’t put into words how gratifying it is. This person is really grateful and goes out of his way to let me know.
I hope I don’t fall off the horse, but I would like to find a way to help others. I know there’s many groups and I’ve really really have become knowledgeable on this subject. Again, not to play doctor, but to give people a format of the different treatments and to talk their doctors in an intelligent way because we all know once you’re in front of a doctor, things are going in one ear one and out the other and you have no idea what they’re talking about while you’re in the office.
It’s kind of ironic, but with all the treatments and advances out there there’s only really three tried and true methods deal dealing with this prostate cancer and it’s such a wide margin of different aspects of this cancer and different ways to treat it and unfortunately it’s almost a matter of picking which one will produce the best results with the least collateral damage Because there will always be damage. This cancer sucks there is so much in between stuff on how much to treat how much you’re willing to risk it getting worse or how much collateral damage do you want. All cancer sucks.
I apologize for my long winded response in a thread under a different subject. I’ll stop that here.
@demarpaint Wow I just did a search up there. A quick one but it looks like the insurers have almost all bailed out of the Advantage Market up there. I can guess why. Legislation has caught up with the public. Legislation made it restriction free to go back and forth between MediGap and Advantage costing the insurers too much money. So you could game the system year by year depending on what treatments you may need. Add to that, costs of everything up there on top of it. Im in shock, a quick search showed no plans for 2026 vs 2025. Even your Medigap plans are a fortune up there. I can't get over it. Currently I pay $140 a month for plan N. I could even go to a high deductible G $2800 for $36 a month. When I start a thread for fun I will post what we have here. There is an Advantage Plan here that will pay me $180 a month to take the plan. Sure it has less frills but the important stuff like when you get sick are covered. Im not doing that one.I like perks and low out of pocket exposure.
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