Grew up with V8 Fords and Chevrolets. Mostly Impalas,Caprices,Cadillacs and Ford Panthers. The bulk of them were 1 to 2 years old when we bought them. All were excellent vehicles. All were extremely low maintenance. We keep up with maintenance on all vehicles.
Now we buy V8 [5.3] Tahoe,Suburban and Yukon. Was very reluctant to go with the Direct Injection engines but so far [between 70-100K miles] just has been regular maintenance. All get decent mileage on plain old 87 regular fuel. Gets the same mileage [around 24-25 MPG] if it is all highway. The same mileage as the 4.6 Panthers we used to own.
Giving up on Ford - too many problems, need suggestions
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I've noticed in my 2018 Taurus the door was not aligned and spot in the trunk not painted and interior panel on the rear window that's not fully pressed down. They really do need to get their fit and finish and overall quality better. I had to have an engine leaks repaired at 3000 miles under warranty. So far no other issues should I only have 9843 miles. I guess the union is working real good at Chicago plant
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Originally Posted by tig1
I have not had that experience with my Ford Fusions. The 2018 has 85K and the only repair needed was the timing chain re-sealed at 59K. Nothing else so far.
. In my 35 year s owning Fords I have never had a bad one. Now Chevy's and Chrysler's in the early, that's another story. Also my one adventure with a new 1970 VW Square Back sedan( I kept it 3 months) was nothing but trouble. 
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Originally Posted by mpack88
I've noticed in my 2018 Taurus the door was not aligned and spot in the trunk not painted and interior panel on the rear window that's not fully pressed down. They really do need to get their fit and finish and overall quality better. I had to have an engine leaks repaired at 3000 miles under warranty. So far no other issues should I only have 9843 miles. I guess the union is working real good at Chicago plant
The differences in members' experiences are very interesting. I've had far more trouble out of my GMs that I have my Fords. 2011 Camaro was plagued with issues and recalls, and the soft top was NEVER fixed correctly. 2015 Canyon has set a new record for me in trips to the shop, and is my first vehicle to consume oil, aside of my '78 Monza, which I won't even count. Aside of having to live outside, no truck lives an easier life than it does, and look how it repays me.
Meanwhile, the Focus STs (2) and Mustangs (2) have been virtually trouble-free, minus a TCM re-flash on the coupe and some strange, but apparently normal, transmission operation out of the A10.
The vast difference in my experiences between GM and Ford in my driveway will direct what my checkbook does in the future. I'll be lucky if the timing chain on the Canyon doesn't start acting up this April right after the warranty runs out, regardless of the 5,000 mile OCI w/ synthetic it's enjoyed. Not sure what will replace it, but there's little chance it will be a GM.
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Just wonder - if it's certain that clean oil is a big plus for those chains - Seems an Amsoil bypass filter system might be economic overall and once installed - less PM and oil
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Just wonder - if it's certain that clean oil is a big plus for those chains - Seems an Amsoil bypass filter system might be economic overall and once installed - less PM and oil
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Yeah - I really don't know that engine - I have always (have two now) run 5.3L's … no issues with those. Love the new gen.
We do have a Cruze with 128k and the little 1.4T purrs on - you just have to know some plastic has to come off around 90-100k but cheap and easy shade tree work.
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Originally Posted by WylieCoyote
The differences in members' experiences are very interesting. I've had far more trouble out of my GMs that I have my Fords. 2011 Camaro was plagued with issues and recalls, and the soft top was NEVER fixed correctly. 2015 Canyon has set a new record for me in trips to the shop, and is my first vehicle to consume oil, aside of my '78 Monza, which I won't even count. Aside of having to live outside, no truck lives an easier life than it does, and look how it repays me.
Meanwhile, the Focus STs (2) and Mustangs (2) have been virtually trouble-free, minus a TCM re-flash on the coupe and some strange, but apparently normal, transmission operation out of the A10.
The vast difference in my experiences between GM and Ford in my driveway will direct what my checkbook does in the future. I'll be lucky if the timing chain on the Canyon doesn't start acting up this April right after the warranty runs out, regardless of the 5,000 mile OCI w/ synthetic it's enjoyed. Not sure what will replace it, but there's little chance it will be a GM.
There is no perfect automobile produced, just not happening.In the case of the Silverados. -this tells me it's a supplier issue. That's not indicative of the rest of the vehicle.
This thread just reinforces the basic culture on here (BITOG) of buying 100,000 or 200,000 mile (cheap) beaters ( "a score") and then all joining hands around the vehicle and singing "Kumbaya" when it reaches 300,000 miles.
Enjoy the Crown Vics......
Do people here restart months old threads for any particular reason or is it because of the "Similar threads" section at the bottom of the page now, that confuses some folks?
Highlander, Telluride/Palisade or CX-9
I got tired of Ford/GM/Chrysler and have switched over to buying designed, manufactured, and assembled in Japan. I have been very pleased with the results of that decision. Better vehicles with far less issues.
If you wanna trade all of your issues for electrical gremlins, get a GM (government motors).
Mazda is where its at today. At least for now.
Mazda is where its at today. At least for now.
Ford paint issues are well known and a huge problem. Cost over $4k to have problem areas on my truck stripped and repainted. Plus all the well know issues that are never recalled just TSBs. Never owning another Ford.
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I mean Ford's not perfect but they aren't bad by any means. I've owned three Crown Vics, a 99, 07, and 08. All ran great at time of sale. They did have minor issues but all things considered, the way I abused them, plus two of them being retired cop cars, they too didn't live easy lives.
I've put my Escape through it all. Drove over curbs/medians, off-roading (and almost getting stuck since it's only FWD), flooring it pretty much everywhere (the 2.5L NA engine just doesn't have the power I need/want it to), and I've loaded the ole girl up with 7+ pallets strapped on the roof and the inside full of soil and plants... Still rode fine even though it was even slower LOL. Also rented it out on Turo for a while... I'm sure my renters didn't treat it nicely. Oh and did some Uber too.
And now I have this F-150. Sure the engine makes a tapping noise but after some cleaning the interior is in almost perfect condition... Sun visor, vents, door handles, all in perfect condition. The seat isn't even torn like a GM would be. And it handles great... even with worn out Chinese tires on the wet roads I haven't done any accidental drifting. Unlike all the other pickup trucks I've owned. So they designed something right.
Don't get me wrong, I'm still a big fan of GM, but I've turned into a Ford guy too. I would say they both have good models/years and bad. As do all other car makers. You have to do your research. Just don't get a Dodge/FCA product. I had an 05 Ram 1500 I got for free. Biggest turd ever. That said, I sold it for $900, so, no complaints there. If it hadn't been such a turd it wouldn't have been free.
Mom's Accord is a piece of junk, my aunt traded in her Corolla on a Subaru... both are oil burners and needed way too many clutches. I would rather have a 200K mile Ford or GM than spend the same amount of money on a 300K import because for some reason the imports hold their value absurdly well.
