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Originally Posted by PimTac
Originally Posted by StevieC
I call roadside assistance to change my tire when needed. So what?
That's what it's there for. I'm capable but why risk my life on the side of a road and in bad weather (If it's not raining it's usually snowing).





Exactly. Also, for a lot of people it's almost impossible to loosen the lug nuts with the small lug wrench that comes with the vehicle.



Buy a big 4-way lug wrench .

https://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?dir=asc&order=EAScore%2Cf%2CEAFeatured+Weight%2Cf%2CSale+Rank%2Cf&q=lug+wrench

And buy a hydraulic floor jack .

https://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?dir=asc&limit=60&order=Sort+Price%2Ct&q=floor+jacl
 
Originally Posted by StevieC
Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by StevieC
I call roadside assistance to change my tire when needed. So what?
That's what it's there for. I'm capable but why risk my life on the side of a road and in bad weather (If it's not raining it's usually snowing).

This was on parking lot! Sorry, but if you need road assistance in 30's on parking lot of your work, some things some where went wrong.

I still wouldn't do it. I paid for the roadside assistance either included in my vehicle purchase price or a separate plan and I need to get my monies worth. Further you try getting the tire carrier out from under the center of the caravan with a bad back. No thank you. Especially not in -4F / -20c temps here currently with snow.

To me, there's no shame in calling roadside assistance or AAA if you made an effort to try or don't want to risk injury/death. Or you drive a AWD Toyota Sienna/BMW/Mini/Mercedes with run-flat tires or a "comfort kit". I'd rather get a tow to a tire shop that risk it unnecessarily.
 
Originally Posted by WyrTwister
Originally Posted by PimTac
Originally Posted by StevieC
I call roadside assistance to change my tire when needed. So what?
That's what it's there for. I'm capable but why risk my life on the side of a road and in bad weather (If it's not raining it's usually snowing).





Exactly. Also, for a lot of people it's almost impossible to loosen the lug nuts with the small lug wrench that comes with the vehicle.



Buy a big 4-way lug wrench .

https://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?dir=asc&order=EAScore%2Cf%2CEAFeatured+Weight%2Cf%2CSale+Rank%2Cf&q=lug+wrench

And buy a hydraulic floor jack .

https://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?dir=asc&limit=60&order=Sort+Price%2Ct&q=floor+jacl





No thanks. If my wife is driving or it's miserable weather outside I'll call the service.
 
Originally Posted by StevieC
Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by StevieC
I call roadside assistance to change my tire when needed. So what?
That's what it's there for. I'm capable but why risk my life on the side of a road and in bad weather (If it's not raining it's usually snowing).

This was on parking lot! Sorry, but if you need road assistance in 30's on parking lot of your work, some things some where went wrong.

I still wouldn't do it. I paid for the roadside assistance either included in my vehicle purchase price or a separate plan and I need to get my monies worth. Further you try getting the tire carrier out from under the center of the caravan with a bad back. No thank you. Especially not in -4F / -20c temps here currently with snow.


Yeah, so that changes everything for you. If I can change a tire in 20 minutes and be on my way without putting myself in danger from traffic or weather or existing physical condition I'm doing it not waiting who knows how long for a guy to get there. I've got AAA for when we tow and for wife and daughter, have to rethink my DIY nature depending on conditions.
 
Originally Posted by PimTac
... The typical lug wrench that is at a angle with about 12 inches of handle to work with is pretty useless on a lug that has been put on with a impact wrench. The older cross type lug wrenches were better but even then you needed muscles or two people. ...
True, but you can limit that problem by loosening the overtightened nuts at home at the first convenient opportunity after they're overtightened, before trouble strikes on the road somewhere.
That said, typical crude standard lug wrenches leave a lot to be desired.
 
Originally Posted by CR94
Originally Posted by PimTac
... The typical lug wrench that is at a angle with about 12 inches of handle to work with is pretty useless on a lug that has been put on with a impact wrench. The older cross type lug wrenches were better but even then you needed muscles or two people. ...
True, but you can limit that problem by loosening the overtightened nuts at home at the first convenient opportunity after they're overtightened, before trouble strikes on the road somewhere.
That said, typical crude standard lug wrenches leave a lot to be desired.

Could using one foot, both feet or whole body weight start it, at least? I'm referring to persons under 200#
 
The crap wrench provided in the toolkit of any car I've owned has never been enough to loosen wheel nuts tightened to the specified torque. If I'm going on a long trip I throw a long bar in with the emergency kit I keep in the boot but if a tyre goes down anywhere other than a quiet road with good visibility during the day, I'm getting somewhere safe and calling for the roadside assistance I pay for. Anybody whose manhood is seriously affected by the idea of doing so needs a reality check.
 
Originally Posted by 240_Ed
The crap wrench provided in the toolkit of any car I've owned has never been enough to loosen wheel nuts tightened to the specified torque. If I'm going on a long trip I throw a long bar in with the emergency kit I keep in the boot but if a tyre goes down anywhere other than a quiet road with good visibility during the day, I'm getting somewhere safe and calling for the roadside assistance I pay for. Anybody whose manhood is seriously affected by the idea of doing so needs a reality check.


That's great and all, but to be relevant to this thread: Are you wearing makeup during that process?
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Quite a few sunscreens use silicones to make them feel less sticky. I remember using one particular brand that was high in silicones, and it had a habit of eating through polystyrene. Styrofoam cups would start sticking to my fingers, and I accidentally got it on ABS plastic where it started softening it up.

And tangentially related, but does anyone remember the Sakata seatbelt recall of the 90s? I remember back before there was the recall, some Takata exec was claiming that they were failing because Americans were slobs and that they were being damaged by food eaten in the car getting into the seatbelt parts.
 
Originally Posted by bbhero
Great point StevieC.... No sense in hurting oneself...
Especially when, as already noted, you've paid for someone else to come out and to the work for you.
 
Originally Posted by y_p_w
Quite a few sunscreens use silicones to make them feel less sticky. I remember using one particular brand that was high in silicones, and it had a habit of eating through polystyrene. Styrofoam cups would start sticking to my fingers, and I accidentally got it on ABS plastic where it started softening it up.

And tangentially related, but does anyone remember the Sakata seatbelt recall of the 90s? I remember back before there was the recall, some Takata exec was claiming that they were failing because Americans were slobs and that they were being damaged by food eaten in the car getting into the seatbelt parts.

I was a kid when they had that recall - and yep, Takata blamed it on Americans loving fast food which is ironic since the Japanese LOVE KFC. Toyota was impacted the least, since a member of their keiretsu is their primary seatbelt vendor(Tokai Rika). Honda was rocked the most, since they are Takata's primary client.

One thing people don't realize about silicones is that other silicones will break them down. Some scuba divers use Dow 111 in a pinch to help their masks seal against their beards, but it can soften and weaken silicone in short order. Silicone, ahem, personal lubricant isn't to be used with certain things made from silicone for reasons I won't go into here.
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Also, certain silicone-based greases aren't recommended for use on plastic gears. Dow says Molykote 33 is used on plastic gears, while Toyota calls for their yellow body grease(which is a Dow product too, but PAO-based instead of silicone-based) to be used on the plastic gears of steering tilt mechanisms and antenna motors.
 
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