I’m assuming the new Bolt will have similar charging performance to other mainstream Ultium vehicles which is around 150kw max.
“General Motors’ EV Battery Cell Production Overtakes Tesla: Report”
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I’m assuming the new Bolt will have similar charging performance to other mainstream Ultium vehicles which is around 150kw max.
The thing is, the Ultium batteries charge faster the more modules that they have. I can't imagine the new Bolt not having a battery that's smaller than the Equinox, Blazer, Optiq, et. al. Which means less modules.
There are videos out there explaining the concept and the math of it, better than I could.
People around here love 'em. And there's a Bazillion of 'em running around. My next door neighbors are on the 2nd Bolt (and 3rd EV) and the family across the street have had one for years.
There has to be 10 EVs on our block. Some people have 2... And a bunch of hybrids.
We can't afford gas!
I just don’t see Tesla doing anything outside of the normal pattern. It’ll be the cheapest Model Y, but it’s just emulating the last Model Y and the current/previous Model 3.
I don’t think price reduction below what it was before is going to buy them out of Musk’s mess. This is the consequences of his actions.
GM said the new Bolt EV won’t use the current LG “Ultium” modules, but instead will use a supplied LFP pack, so the current rule of fewer modules = lower voltage = slower charging, won’t apply.
The Bolt’s LFP pack will possibly be a Samsung “LFP+” battery or a CATL LFP design - built under license by Japan’s TDK. The Samsung plant is under construction now in South Bend, but no word on the TDK/CATL plant.
I guess there’s a tiny chance the Bolt EV resurects the alternate 48v Ultium module that was cancelled. That would allow a higher voltage than the current 85kWh pack, despite being closer to 70kWh.
Here’s GM’s original Ultium plan with the now-cancelled 48v module. It was going to be used in the 6,8 & 16 module packs.
The plans turned into this - cancel 6,8 & 16, but add a 14. Then supplier LFP take the place of 6&8 mod.
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Those are some internal slides above 
The article is a bit inaccurate. Number of cells and Gigawatt hours are two different things. You can take electrodes and make them into many small batteries or less larger batteries.
As a GM Utlium employee, awesome to see everyone is excited with their GM products.
The article is a bit inaccurate. Number of cells and Gigawatt hours are two different things. You can take electrodes and make them into many small batteries or less larger batteries.
As a GM Utlium employee, awesome to see everyone is excited with their GM products.
Elon changes the release of new models a little less frequently than a toddler gets diaper changes, but last I heard, Elon cancelled the Q, saying it didn't make sense. He said that to hit the price point, the battery pack would have to be reduced to the point where the Q would have very short range, and no one would want it.
Have I missed something, and it is back on again?
