Gear Oil Question (2000 4Runner 4WD)

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Does GL-5 truly equal hypoid? I had a lot of contemplation on what to put in my 4Runner 4WD. I finally just ended up putting the Mobil 1 Synthetic in the front/rear differentials and transfer case. The front diff called for 75-90 hypoid, the rear SAE 90 hypoid and the transfer regular 75-90. So again, I just put the GL-5 Mobil 1. Is this OK, I am certain that the GL-5 will meet the hypoid requirement. Any thoughts?
 
OK.. I answered my own question on HYPOID oil.. it's more of extreme pressure in the way the gears meet. So it appears GL-5 does meet the hypoid requirement. I'd still like to hear the feedback from BITOG members though.

>Can someone explain the difference between Hypoid and Non-Hypoid
>oil?

"Hypoid" is not really a question of oil, so much as a question of
gearcutting. Old (1920's) rear axles used straight bevel gears to form
the crownwheel and pinion. These had two disadvantage, the pinion
shaft meets the crownwheel on its central axis, and the straight cut
gears are noisy. By using a more complex "hypoid" gear tooth shape (if
you look at a pinion, the teeth appear twisted) these problems can be
addressed. The more gradual engagement of the teeth along their length
reduces noise. By careful design of the geometry the pinion can be
made to mesh _below_ the axis of the crownwheel. As the centre height
of the crownwheel is fixed by the wheel height, this allows the
propshaft to be lowered relative to the car body, giving a clearer
floorpan and lower centre of gravity for better cornering. Hypoid
bevels are now universal in this application.

Because of the sliding contact that hypoid gears make, their
hydrodynamic contact pressure is higher. To be suitable for use with
hypoid gears, a lubricant must be capable of resisting high pressures.

Oils with "EP" ratings (Extreme Pressure) such as EP90 are required.
Some brands describe themselves as "hypoid" instead, a term which is
synonymous with EP. GL-5 is a formal API standard for this type of oil
(comparable to MIL-L-2105B/C/D)

> The book is telling me to use Non-Hypoid gear oil 80W or
>80W/90 on the manual transmission and GL-5 hypoid gear oil 90W on
>the rear axle.

A manual transmission won't usually contain hypoid gears, so it
doesn't need an EP oil. Rare exceptions are those transaxles where the
crownwheel and gearbox share the same lubricant. Although an EP oil is
more complex to manufacture, it has no disadvantages when used in
instances where the EP attribute isn't strictly required. Manual
steering boxes and other slow-moving oil-containing components are
often filled with 90 weight oil. It's usual to buy EP90 because that's
what the axle requires, then use the same oil for all other
components.

There's little practical difference between 80 & 90 weights. I fill
everything with EP80 and I've never had a problem.

There's an increasing trend amongst manufacturers to reduce the number
of different lubricant types required. My own gearbox (5 speed Range
Rover) runs on ATF, but 20W/50 engine oil or EP90 axle oil are equally
permissible.
 
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Does GL-5 truly equal hypoid? I had a lot of contemplation on what to put in my 4Runner 4WD. I finally just ended up putting the Mobil 1 Synthetic in the front/rear differentials and transfer case. The front diff called for 75-90 hypoid, the rear SAE 90 hypoid and the transfer regular 75-90. So again, I just put the GL-5 Mobil 1. Is this OK, I am certain that the GL-5 will meet the hypoid requirement. Any thoughts?




Ok, this seems like a fine time to make my first post on BITOG.

I have a '97 4x4 SR5 4Runner.

To put your mind at ease, I have been using Mobil 1 75w90 Synthetic gear oil in the 5-speed manual transmission, transfer case, and both front and rear differentials, for the last nine years.

No problems at all.
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Most lubricants for differentials are hypoid gear oils. These contain extreme pressure (EP) additives and antiwear additives to cope with the sliding action of hypoid bevel gears.
 
M-1 75w90 is no problemo....in fact its a bargain.FWIW, Redline makes some really good gear oils. Amsoil just released a 75w110 which I think I'll start using once my 75w90 stash is depleted.
 
Thanks for the replies everyone. I really try to do what's best for my 4Runner. I think I am going to switch to Amsoil when it's time for another change. The rear diffs fluid seemed scorched a bit, but the front diff and transfer case came out nearly as golden brown as it went in. It makes sense though since they do roughly 1% of the work that the rear diff is doing.
 
To add a slight twist to this the New 2007 Tundra is useing Hob Face Cut ring and pinion gears. No need for a better fluid they are just a lot stronger.
 
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