Garage Door Spring Needed

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I would recommend getting someone to do it for you that are professional.

My dad try to replace it once and the new spring slip out of his hand while he attached a handle to tighten it, and it hit his head full force.

Luckily he was able to drive to emergency room without fainting, and got 3 stitches on his forehead thereafter. At least he didn't die from that accident.
 
I work for a garage door company...I talk to people like you everyday.

For starters no one in their right mind would sell you a tortion spring. It IS very dangerous!!! These spring have about 40 winds on them, and if youre still able to open your door then you must have a 2 spring set up, and the other one still has tension, to replace the broken spring you have to unwind the non broken spring(this is where you could lose a finger or limb)...some companies will come out and replace just one spring, this is not honest or ethical work, because once that non broken spring is unwound it loses 60% of its strength(and the guy who winds that back up is abig ol idiot because it could burst sending shrapnel flying). Like I said the honest and ethical way is to replace both springs at the same time, this will properly balance the door, helping the door go up evenly and smoothly. If possible shop around and find out if the company sells "high cycle" torsion springs, commonly refered to as 30,000 cycle springs, cycle meaning the ammount of times you can open and close your door...most companies sell only low cycle 3000 springs, a 3k spring will only last about 3-5 years(great if youre selling the house, crappy if you just moved in)you may pay 15-20 bucks more per spring, but it is well worth it and you will know the co. that youre dealing cares about what they sell and is usually a good indication of the co's reputation.

But be careful opening and closing the door, in fact I would discontinue using it until you can get a company out there, if youve used the opener since, chances are youve striped the plastic gear inside the motor(cheap easy fix bout 79 bucks if its a brand still manufactured). A door unsprung is very heavy it would probably take 2 or 3 guys to lift it, you probably can, but coming back down is where problems arrise, the door could go crooked or worse yet fall out of the hole! Leave it be! The more you mess with it the worse it can get. Its a simple machine that uaually gets the best of the most handy, leave it to the pros.

Just a recommendation, I wouldnt use the Overhead Door Company...its a national franchise, which sounds great, but if you put one of thier openers in there, you are stuck dealing with them forever until you replace it...and you are at thier mercy, they get there when they can, and they know you cant get thier product anywhere else...when purchasing an opner(if need be) go with Liftmaster or Sears/Craftsman or Chamberline...its all the same company, and anybody(company) can fix it. Also Genie is a good name.

One last thing Garage door companies and people are shady, I dont trust very many technicians...they are all salesmen...just be careful, go with a large company if you can, that way in the future when you need service or warranty related repairs, they will hopefully still be in business, its very common for door companies to go out of business after a year or 2.

Hope some of this helps, if you have any more questions I'll be happy to answer.
 
So ShortBuSX - if you have a torsional spring and it fails is it a good idea to convert it over to the other type like keith suggests? I have the torsional ones now but have worked on the other type in the past. It seems obvious to me that some people don't realize that there are totally different types out there.......
 
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Originally posted by John K:
So ShortBuSX - if you have a torsional spring and it fails is it a good idea to convert it over to the other type like keith suggests? I have the torsional ones now but have worked on the other type in the past. It seems obvious to me that some people don't realize that there are totally different types out there.......

I would stick with the torsion ones. If nothing else, if one lets loose when you are opening or closing the door, the part open door is between it and you. Spray a little lube on them, and good torsion springs will last a long time. It is easy to lock the axle ow what ever it is, while you replace a fraying cable.

With the other style, who knows where the spring and called will fly.
 
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Originally posted by labman:
With the other style, who knows where the spring and called will fly.

You are supposed to use tethers so they won't fly anywhere if they break.

It's amazing how heavy a solid wood double wide door is. My installation has two springs on each side. The door is perfectly balanced now, you can push it up and down with your pinkie and it stops when you stop. It wasn't that good when it was new.
 
The only reason to use an extension spring set up(versus torsion) is in cases of low headroom(less than 18") and if anything(if possible)(and especially with a heavy wooden door) I would convert an extension spring set up to torsion, reason being is its safer and does a much better job of making sure the door goes up evenly(and smoothly) by putting equal tension on the cables. But to convert from one set up to another is usually much more costly than repairing what youve got.

Most companies use "safety cables" on extension springs to ensure that the spring doesnt go flying when it does break...but not everyone does this and its usually at the customers request(not required).
 
Thanks for the clarification........ who would have thunk you'd find this kind of info on an oil forum?! People look at me like I must be crazy when I quote something I've read here. lol.
I have installed the safety cables at two houses after seeing what a broken spring did to the inside of my garage. Very scary.
Where we live now has the torsional and it is the first time I have seen them..
 
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Well just make sure you run a steel cable thru the inside of it and have it firmly anchored at both ends with a sturdy eyebold run through a steel frame member. Once you have one of those babies snap. .. you will be disposing of that pair of underwear. As I am writing I'm going to inspect my cable.

that's one of the first things I id when I moved into my house. Recommended by the home inspector.

I believe all springs are installed this way now.
 
One of the springs on our garage door was recently replaced. The guy who did it had only one arm. I figured he was a veteran or had lost his arm in a freak accident. Maybe it was really a work injury?
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We also have one of those "Pull-Down" ladders in the ceiling that has the sam kind of arrangement. I ran a 3/32" steel cable through it also. If you do it..its almost impossible to use cable clamps. Just run one end through all the way. Then run it through the frame at the other end and back through the spring again. Then tie it off. I actually used duct tape at the other end to keep it secure.
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It ain't pretty but it will work. You don't see it anyway.
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Also, if he did just replace one of your springs on a 2 car garage door(which should have 2 springs)...then he ripped you off(even though it was cheaper than 2)...the reason being as that these springs have the same life cycle

It's an apartment building and the landlord is cheap. Maybe that's why he got a former pirate to fix the garage door. I've never really checked the garage door mechanism but remember seeing one large horizontal coil spring on top. I have no idea how he tensioned it.
 
the coil torsion spring has a wheel device (usually in the center) that is used to pre-tension the coil (1 for each spring).

It has ~.5"(?) holes that you stick a rod (like a socket extension) to turn. You need 2 of the rod things: insert 1, turn, hold while you insert 2nd. Hold 2nd, remove 1st, turn 2nd, repeat. When done, a setscrew locks it in place. you have to have the door DOWN AND LOCKED when doing this, you can't get to the coils with the door up!

When you have done enough, the door will rise properly. Not enough and it won't go up all the way. Too much and your neighbors may wind up with your door in their den....
 
If its an 8x7 or 9x7 a one spring set up is about all that will fit...if its a 10x7 or larger its considered a double door and really needs 2 springs...with a tortion spring set up(springs overhead)it will have a bracket mounted overhead in the center mounted to a 2x6 piece of preasure treated lumber, there should be a spring mounted to the left and to the right hand side of this bracket...when the spring isnt broken it will appear to look like "one big spring"...and if it just has one spring(either to the left or right) then that is a cost saving measure for either the home builer or the garage door company, it will work for a short period of time(usually long enough for the warranty to expire) but to the job propperly it will require 2...I wouldnt use any company that would either replace just one spring or that would intsall a one spring set up...and when looking for a company to replace springs, ask them if they use "high cycle" springs, often refered to as a 30,000 cycle spring..if they sell low cycle(3000 cycle) springs itll only last between 3-5 years(if that) as opposed to 30 years with the 30k.

Id still love to see this one armed guy wind springs...I cant really imagine how its possible
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it boggles the mind.
 
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Originally posted by kenw:
It has ~.5"(?) holes that you stick a rod (like a socket extension) to turn. You need 2 of the rod things: insert 1, turn, hold while you insert 2nd. Hold 2nd, remove 1st, turn 2nd, repeat. When done, a setscrew locks it in place. you have to have the door DOWN AND LOCKED when doing this, you can't get to the coils with the door up!

When you have done enough, the door will rise properly. Not enough and it won't go up all the way. Too much and your neighbors may wind up with your door in their den....


Yeah, see this is why I find it baffling about the one armed man...it takes 2 of these winding bars and about 40 quarter turns(on each side) to properlly balance the door...not enough winds and the door will slam, too many and it will shoot up....but once these are wound and it looses tention(or the winding bar slips off)...LOOK OUT!!!
 
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When you have done enough, the door will rise properly. Not enough and it won't go up all the way. Too much and your neighbors may wind up with your door in their den....

Well, I have no trouble opening the door, but my girlfriend has to pull quite bit on the handle with both hands to get the door moving up. It's certainly a bit sticky and not very smooth. Keep in mind that everything is a bit warped from earthquakes.
 
if that's the case, then it probably isn't the springs at all. It's more likely the tracks have become misaligned.
 
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