Fuel induction bottle and adapter kit

[Spring Break '92]

Rather than use spray products to do induction services on our cars, I was thinking of getting one of the plastic fuel induction bottles with the adapters for various vaccum hoses, intake manifolds, etc. I have used them when I was a technician some years ago. I remember them being just white-clear plastic - nothing special or fancy.

I went and looked at what is offered today and I am seeing a lot of expensive stainless steel induction bottles. Where can I buy an older style simple plastic setup?

Does anyone else use these at home? I was thinking I could use Berryman's B12, Redline SI-1, Techron or similar in the bottle to do induction services. Would this even be something worth doing?

 

[D60]

I don't know how you did it before. If you're wanting to catch all the induction you can use the Seafoam product with the straw you sneak into an intake boot. He-who-angers-BITOG-overlords had a video on an old BII or Ranger

If you're wanting the fuel system and injectors you want the bottle with a regulator and run straight off that. Block or disconnect the supply line so you don't force hot cleaner back to your tank and fuel pump. The best deal for me a couple years ago was the Lang setup from Zoro with code, but still a couple hundred bucks.

edit: post up if you find exactly what you're looking for!

 

[Spring Break '92]

I don't know how you did it before. If you're wanting to catch all the induction you can use the Seafoam product with the straw you sneak into an intake boot. The best deal for me a couple years ago was the Lang setup from Zoro with code, but still a couple hundred bucks.

edit: post up if you find exactly what you're looking for!

It was just an induction bottles with a regulator dial, hooked up to a hot engine, and run until the cleaning agent was all gone. I would open the dial very slowly just until there was a change in the idle and then dial it back a touch. I'm not sure what you are referring to about catching the cleaning agent. Tell me a little bit more about that please.

Not trying to use a spray aerosol product, really. It would first be used on my wife's '24 Mazda with the 2.5 GDI engine. It's got sub-15K miles on it and I want to get a jump on those intake valves!

Zoro is the bomb - I use them for work and home items regularly.

I will report back with a link if I find one that isn't chintzy but not several hundred dollars either. Nowadays it seems like they are all steel bottles. I would love to know that I could drip some Techron or something like that with a bottle.

 

[GR_CoB]

Here is an old-school solution. Permanent installation is required. But then just refill the bottle, drive, and your PCV will do the rest. Perfect solution for MMO, B12, or any other fuel cleaners. Even water, as it has been used for decades for decarbonization.

Or here is a more modern day solution, likely more inline with what you're looking for. EFI cleaning kit from Amazon

 

[D60]

Here is an old-school solution. Permanent installation is required. But then just refill the bottle, drive, and your PCV will do the rest. Perfect solution for MMO, B12, or any other fuel cleaners. Even water, as it has been used for decades for decarbonization.
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Or here is a more modern day solution, likely more inline with what you're looking for. EFI cleaning kit from Amazon
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I think the latter is the same story: keep the pressure under the fuel regulator and hope you don't overrun it and push cleaner back to the tank, assuming a true thru-rail cleaner that can damage fuel pumps. Safest to disco the supply line to ensure no problems.

 

[Spring Break '92]

These are about as close as I can find to what I had in mind.

https://www.amazon.com/MOTO4U-Auxil...cphy=1027233&hvtargid=pla-2281435178578&psc=1

https://fullthrottleproducts.com/controlled-induction-cleaner-delivery-device-tool/

The kit posted above from Amazon could probably be used in the same way but it seems like it is for more of a service where you would disable the fuel pump and run a compressed air line into the quick disconnect port, in order to provide pressure to run a cleaning agent through the fuel rail.

 

[Spring Break '92]

This is pretty much exactly what I wanted, ordered one and a big bottle of Techron.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F9V998YF?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

 

[DeeSull]

This is pretty much exactly what I wanted, ordered one and a big bottle of Techron.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F9V998YF?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title

I am very curious how this works out and what your process looks like. I've had good luck so far with the CRC GDI IVD cleaner spray, but have been looking into induction bottles and liquid intake cleaners.

I tried getting my paws on a Toyota (or Subaru) Top Engine Tool, but they've been on backorder for months and have become quite expensive. The plastic one you found looks promising.

The bottles of Toyota (and Subaru) Top Engine Cleaner are hard to find in my area, and only contain petroleum distillates, isopropanol, toluene, triethylamine and methyl pyrrolidine. The CRC GDI spray contains propane, light+medium petroleum distillates, PEA, alkyl aminoester, and lubricating oils. It looks like Techron or Red Line SI-1 or Gumout Regane, diluted with more petroleum distillates and some propane (which doubles as a propellant).

What is your intended treatment plan? Straight-up Techron, or diluting it with something like Sea Foam/gas/kerosene? What volume of Techron/mix do you intend to use? How quickly do you feed it into the intake?

Sorry if all these questions are too much. Really looking forward to finding out what worked for you.

 

[Spring Break '92]

I am very curious how this works out and what your process looks like. Really looking forward to finding out what worked for you.

I have done this many times before but not at home. Basically with a hot engine, you locate an intake manifold port that feeds all cylinders and connect a short hose to it. You install the stepped nipple of the bottle hose into it, and restart the engine while idling between 2 and 3000 RPM and very slowly open the flow control valve for the bottle and continue until empty. Afterwards, shut down and heat soak for an hour, then drive on the interstate for about 15 minutes.

I had planned on just using straight Techron. Are you thinking this would be a bad idea? I had not thought to dilute it in any way.

 

[DeeSull]

I had planned on just using straight Techron. Are you thinking this would be a bad idea? I had not thought to dilute it in any way.

I'm not a Petroleum Chemist, and don't claim to be an expert here. My approach was to somewhat mimic CRC's formula, which is known to work well. Knowing CRC, they would have tested multiple combinations, and decided that this concentration (somewhere between 5% and 15% according to the SDS) of PEA cleaned well enough; and that upping the concentration added unnecessary cost, didn't add sufficient benefit, or increased risks.

Folks on these forums say that if you use a LOT of fuel additives, that some of the detergents (eg PEA) will blow by the piston rings, and ruin the engine oil. PEA in engine oil would thin it out and degrade its additives. Unlike solvents in the oil, PEA doesn't evaporate off through the PCV system. Folks say to change the oil after applying lots of fuel additives, so I'd consider doing that here too.

I figure that perhaps a higher concentration of PEA, or a larger volume of cleaner might liberate TOO MUCH carbon at once. A large amount of freed up carbon particles could scrape up your cylinder walls, or overload your catalytic converter. Though on your wife's 15,000 mile Mazda, there shouldn't be enough carbon buildup to do that.

I'm just hypothesizing, not saying that it's a bad or a good idea. Curious to find out what happens.