Fuchs GT1 0w20, '01 Camry 2.2L, 5000km

[Ken4]

Originally posted by toyota62:

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Car 2001 2.2L toyota camry
Total kms 67000kms
Oil and filter kms 5000kms
Oil grade Fuchs GT1 0w-20
Oil added 50ml
Air filter K&N panel



Aluminium 2
Copper 4
Iron 7
Lead 5
Tin Sodium 43
Boron Potassium Moly 7
Phosphors 441
Magnesium 42
Calcium 3858
Zinc 240
TBN 10.1
Viscosity at 40c; 55
Water% 0.1
Nitration 14.9
PQ index Glycol Petrol%

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[toyota62]

Thank you ken4

 

[Terry]

Oh my goodness,3100 miles of use in a hot environment, vis @ SAE20 ( assumed... why no 100c vis?) and very little ZDDP, how could it provide such a low wearing result? Even using a K&N air filter!!! Get rid of that POS for a paper air filter and wear will drop exponetially.

EXPERTS please pipe in we are all waiting to hear WHY!! In Detail....

 

[Pablo]

Something in your coffee this AM Terry?

50ml of oil added? I'm not exactly trusting these numbers enough to even give them my lousy comments.

 

[MGBV8ROADSTER]

Toyota62

I assume Zinc was from previous oil.

 

[LargeCarManX2]

40c=55=About a 50weight?

Or ........Where are the experts?

 

[simple_gifts]

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EXPERTS please pipe in we are all waiting to hear WHY

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Perhaps 90% of the miles he was towed?

 

[toyota62]

Hi.
Thanks for your in put Terry.
75% city driving and 25% freeway driving.Yes Zinc must be from Fuchs 0w30 which i had in my car before this drain.What you guys think about 43ppm sodium level? Developing a Coolant leak?Shall i replace the oil or go for another 5000kms?

 

[Shannow]

depends on what sodium is in the oil to start with.

 

[toyota62]

Shannow.
I am sure Fuchs GT1 0w-20 doesn't have any Sodium(According to the Ken4's UOA.).But how can i find out the sodium amount was in the previous Fuchs Long Life Plus 0w-30?

 

[Shannow]

Good point. Not sure other than paying for an analysis of any you might have left lying around.

 

[bruce381]

""Yes Zinc must be from Fuchs 0w30 which I had in my car before""

Do not understand is this Fuchs oil suposed to be NON ZN?PCMO SHOULD have ZN perhaps up to 800 ppm
BUT without a VOA do not know what oil started with or if NA is really in additive system or leaky antifreeze or not. Data shown needs a VOA to make ANY assumtion. IF UOA is correct then they must be using a good shot of ESTER to help out with AW properites or are on to newer "ashless" system. ZN to P ratio is lower than "normal" tho.
I think lab or oil is suspect.

bruce

 

[Terry]

believe it bruce, Zinc free, veggie and syn esters based SAE20 @100c 80% biodegradeable lube around since 2001. Fuchs has slowly been buying up Euro and non US lube entities for the last 20 years.

I am looking for VOA data on the Na. May be from the earlier oil or trace of a sulfated ester EP add.

 

[MGBV8ROADSTER]

http://www.fuchs-oil.com/index.php?id=742&type=1

The 1.9 litre test engine, a commercial 85 KW engine with pump injection technology (Unit Injector System), remained below the limits of wear for around 1,000 hours. This therefore meets the requirements for intervals between oil changes of up to 50,000km along with optimum viscosity.

 

[Terry]

SG@15c = 0.867
Flash 238 C D92
PP -45 C D97
Vis @-30C 3200 mPa s
@100C 8.9 mm2/s
VI 160

From 2001 Fuchs Petrolub AG report.

Still searching for additional add and IR data.

 

[Terry]

bruce and pablo, Uses no VII in formula.

 

[Primus]

HT/HS = 2,93

 

[G-MAN]

I'd sure give this Voodoo oil a try if it were available here.

This has got to be the most cutting edge PCMO available OTC. Probably a hint at what gets blended up special for a lot of Formula 1 teams.

 

[bruce381]

High ester with some PAO? anyway high dollar I bet.
Should clean well and offer long drians give amsoil/RL a
run for the money.

bruce

 

[Pablo]

Thanks for getting serious for a moment.

I actually had little clue as to what you trying to say in these two threads. It is now more interesting.

I'd love to see the true 100°C vis.....and did the owner actually only add 50ml of oil? (why bother)